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Summary

JD Vance defended Marko Elez, a 25-year-old Musk aide after racist posts surfaced, including "Normalize Indian hate."

Elez resigned but was reinstated following Vance’s support, despite Vance’s wife being of Indian descent. Vance dismissed criticism, arguing past social media posts shouldn’t ruin careers.

Musk backed Elez after a public poll. Rep. Ro Khanna challenged Vance, who responded dismissively, sparking backlash.

The incident has intensified scrutiny of Musk’s hiring practices and Vance’s stance on racism.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Oh he was "dragged"? Like, across the floor?

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s fine, it’s not like he’s going to be disappointed if she makes him sleep on the couch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Goddamn it. Take my upvote and leave.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Obviously, she's not a white person, and we've been accused, attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha. She's such a good mom. She's such a brilliant lawyer and I am so proud of her.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/jd-vance-criticized-for-weird-response-to-white-supremacist-attacks-on-wife-usha/articleshow/112089701.cms

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Listen, she’s one of the good ones.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Yeah, bet she's feeling really loved right now.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's a class war, Peter Theil is gay, JD Vance is married to an Indian woman, and Elon Musk is an immigrant. The rich aren't racists, homophobic or nativist, or any of that. The only demographic they hate is poor people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

You mean the only demographic they love is money, power, and themselves

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Elon musk is a white immigrant, and they are cool with white refugees, per the executive order to prioritize getting white South Africans in.

Multiple of these people have had their wives insulted by the movement, but at the end of the day even if they are their wives, they are "just women" so no big deal for them.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Right. So if I have he/him in my email signature I get fired. But if i have hugely racist and problematic tweets that are less than a year old while having almost no experience or credentials whatsoever other than being a little buddy buddy with Musk I get to push out dangerous untested code to the most important payment system in the country so musk can block social security benefits for Grandma like he blocks tweets talking about how terrible a father he is. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Now you're gettin it!

[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Looks like someone is sleeping on the couch.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Wrong preposition lol

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nah, she knows that would be a reward not a punishment lmao

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

She's on board with this. She's as racist as he is. Until she becomes the "wrong kind of brown person," and I hope it's too late for her at that point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Looks like someone is sleeping ~~on~~ with the couch

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago

His Indian kids are reaching that age when they either realize he's a hateful insufferable piece of shit, OR they themselves become spoiled rich assholes with no moral compass and live off the griff.

[–] meowmeowbeanz 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Vance’s mental gymnastics are Olympic-tier. Defending a Musk aide who posted “Normalize Indian hate” while married to an Indian woman? Unreal. The man’s moral compass isn’t broken—it’s been sold to the highest bidder.

Elez’s reinstatement is a joke. Racist posts aren’t youthful indiscretions; they’re neon signs of character. But Musk’s Twitter poll governance strikes again, proving that bigotry is just another day at the office for his empire of chaos.

Ro Khanna’s right to call him out. Vance’s dismissal isn’t just cowardice—it’s complicity. If your principles can’t withstand a paycheck or a poll, you don’t have any to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

I am a bit confused. This is JD Vance we talk about. He called Trump ‘Hitler’ on TV. And betrayed his position the second he got approached with the vice presidency. He pushed the ‘Haitians eat your pets’ story. Of course he is complicit. Not just by inaction or muted approval. HE IS PART of the racket.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Oh don't get all up in arms about the honor of usha Vance here. She is a Republican too and voted for these neo Nazis into office along with the other neo Nazis.

There's no honor to defend here, she's one of them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Usha Vance comes from one of the richest most powerful castes in India, Kamma, so she was raised on an idea that she has some innate genetic superiority that makes her feel right at home with white supremacists.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I don't know the cast system in india, but I've seen this sort of behavior a lot from immigrants. Specifically those that "came legally", and hate other immigrants and think themselves superior to other immigrants and blk/ltno people here. They think they are same as wt people because they are "elite" from their area of origin. And many times they justify this racist behavior from current gov by comparing similar racist stereotypes they have from their place of origin. They just moved country, they were racist, now there are people who are racist to them, but they still look down at others instead of standing united.

Sorry for bad abbreviation, kinda don't wanna leave words for it to be flagged somewhere by someone in future and tracked back.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago (2 children)

tfw you're a woman maga voter and realize the only reason you exist to them is to make sammiches in the times between getting fucked

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

It must be monotonous after a while, just getting bread your whole life.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

She should divorce his ass

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She knew what she's going into when she married Vance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Did she?

Did you know that Elon is a Nazi like 10 years ago?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

His first wife figured it out pretty fucking quickly. A lot more than 10 years ago.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/elon-musk-ex-wife-harassment-b2083860.html

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

She likely doesn’t feel offended. She probably thinks she’s better than every other Indian. Self hating Asian women are very common in the West.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

If she married Vance, she's either on the self hate train or thinks they just mean the "bad ones."

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Well, it’s obvious this man just hates his wife.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

She probably agrees with him. These people are all scumbags.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Some insight from across the pond:

Our last Prime Minister was a British Indian from the Conservative party. Recent right wing and far-right members of cabinet have included many more Brits of Indian descent, including two of the most heinously anti-immigrant cabinet members we've ever had. One of them, Suella Braverman, ran for party leadership on an anti-immigrant platform, pointing out that Indians are the largest group who overstay their visas in the UK.

I think very similar things can explain why Usha Vance, Kash Patel, Vivek Ramaswamy and the like can align with an openly racist MAGA crowd:

  1. Class matters more than race. Most of these people grew up privileged and don't identify with the common immigrant or brown person's experson

  2. Power hungry people come from all backgrounds and will do whatever they need to get what they want (in Usha Vance's case that's being first lady one day)

  3. Submitting to model minority status, as many well-to-do immigrant families from South Asia do, means implicitly accepting, and ultimately reflecting, white supremacist values

And as with all issues rooted in history, you can blame the British for some of this. A white supremacist world view where Indians stand above the darker races was introduced to India by the British over a century ago. The British wanted East Africa to become "the America of the Hindu" so they educated and trained a generation of Indian colonial administrators and enforcers. This world view of Indians as superior to others, if subordinate to whites, did not disappear with colonialism. A lot of the people who held those views came directly to Britain and their children became right-wing voters and politicians. The connection with the US is less of a straight line, but you can hear it when you listen to Vivek talk about African-Americans, for example.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

My sisters just like her, I promise you, shes on his side hating indians, self haters fr.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Yea, but not my wife, she's one of the 'good' ones!" - JD, in his mind

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

His wife has the same attitude or she would have divorced him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

why would leopards eat his face?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

By the looks of him, he wasn't getting any from his wife a while ago.

[–] TammyTobacco 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

JD Vance is clearly gay and can't admit it to himself, which is why he's married to a woman he clearly doesn't love, AKA, a Beard.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

I don't know. How can you be that gay if you are so bad at eye liner?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

is it really cucking if he fucks the cuck chair instead of watching

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Surprise surprise, the guy who cozies up to racists to get ahead in life won’t push back against said racists, even to defend his own family.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Musk backed Elez after a public poll

Was that 'public poll' done on twitter? Im sure that was fairly conducted.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Public poll online... lol. You can buy likes, followers and poll votes at the drop of a hat. Even easier if you happen to run a certain network...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

These fuckers don't have a concept of honour.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

man yeah! fetishization is a pattern of hate. he does not love his wife for who she is. he does lot engage with issues of discrimination she experiences and try to mitigate them from a place of loving her as a fellow human. quite the opposite, in fact. to him she is a sexual status symbol and nothing more. and either she knows that and rolls with it because feMAGAle voters are lapdogs selling out their sisters for temporary comfort, or she's deeply embedded in a system of hate that becomes invisible to you when it's normalized by everyone who's around you. in other words she either knows and just grifts on him to do her scams like melania does, or she's so broken by the hegemony she doesn't know it's possible for your husband to love you.

but anyone's who's surprised doesn't know who these people are

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

One cannot betray what one does not possess.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

JD, the vice president, completely disappears for months at a time and imply pops up to be a racist prick and throw his family under the bus

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