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[-] [email protected] 267 points 11 months ago

The bio of the victim from her store's website:

Lauri Carleton's career in fashion began early in her teens, working in the family business at Fred Segal Feet in Los Angeles while attending Art Center School of Design. From there she ran “the” top fashion shoe floor in the US at Joseph Magnin Century City. Eventually she joined Kenneth Cole almost from its inception and remained there for over fifteen years as an executive, building highly successful businesses, working with factories and design teams in Italy and Spain, and traveling 200 plus days a year.

With a penchant for longevity, she has been married to the same man for 28 years and is the mother of a blended family of nine children, the youngest being identical twin girls. She and her husband have traveled the greater part of the US, Europe and South America. From these travels they have nourished a passion for architecture, design, fine art, food, fashion, and have consequently learned to drink in and appreciate the beauty, style and brilliance of life. Their home of thirty years in Studio City is a reflection of this passion, as well as their getaway- a restored 1920's Fisherman's Cabin in Lake Arrowhead. Coveting the simpler lifestyle with family, friends and animals at the lake is enhanced greatly by their 1946 all mahogany Chris-Craft; the ultimate in cultivating a well appreciated and honed lifestyle.

Mag.Pi for Lauri is all about tackling everyday life with grace and ease and continuing to dream…

What a waste. A tragedy for that whole family for literally nothing. No reason at all other than small minded assholes.

[-] [email protected] 65 points 11 months ago

Yeah, it's the second civil war starting. Expect to see more terrible garbage like this on your feeds as we reach 2024 and beyond.

[-] [email protected] 54 points 11 months ago

there aren't enough psychopaths to have a civil war over lgbt flags

[-] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago

Don't tempt fate by challenging it.

[-] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago

Bring it on fate. You useless fucking concept developed by village shamans

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[-] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago

These same people couldn't go three weeks without a haircut in 2020. There are some who'll shoot someone over a pride flag, but not enough to fight a war. They'd be begging to surrender the first time their grocery order doesn't arrive.

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[-] [email protected] 129 points 11 months ago
[-] [email protected] 145 points 11 months ago

If you just call it terrorism more people will understand you. I understand you’re trying to draw a distinction and I’m here to tell you as someone who grew up in a rural town of 1200 people…just call it terrorism. These people aren’t backtracking on language because they thought of an exception. It’s part of why they hate us.

[-] [email protected] 98 points 11 months ago

Only the left has to use language accurately. The right does not care about language.

[-] [email protected] 64 points 11 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago

Kill-billies.

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[-] [email protected] 119 points 11 months ago

I blame the gop for radicalizing the shooter.

[-] [email protected] 99 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I find it important to make clear it was a hate crime, but Lauri Carleton was NOT killed "over a rainbow flag outside her clothing store".

No one gets killed because of a rainbow flag. You get killed because an asshole who wants to rather die than adapt to the world changing wants to spread fear with his last action and needs desperately to find a "reason". Let's not pretend he had a reason any other than being a coward.

My heart goes out to her family, friends and the community impacted.

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[-] [email protected] 91 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The reality is that terrorists like this guy are armed and carrying all the time, but the second amendment is for all Americans including liberals, lefties, moderates and everyone in between.

Im not advocating for violence, in fact having a concealed carry permit nearly always means the exact opposite. Someone being aggressive? You walk away and let them win. Someone tailgating you? Let them pass.

Carrying is about situations like this, between a shop owner with a rainbow flag and someone out looking for an excuse to murder someone over rage bait.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago

the problem I have with this is that you're basically saying more people should have guns. a significant part of the issue is that there already are too many guns around and accessible and that is statistically going to result in more alterations resulting in shooting. you can talk about how much respect guns should be given all you want. but if more people have guns then there will be more gun violence.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You're not wrong and I mainly don't disagree with you.

But look at it from another perspective.

Those millions of guns in households are largely in the hands of conservatives since gun ownership skews heavily towards white people, males, and those living in rural areas which we already know also skews conservative, within which is a subset that fantasize about having a reason to murder their neighbors over dumb shit like colorful flags or opinions.

Liberals are much more diverse of a population than conservatives which means that when it comes to liberals, women or poc the odds of them having a fighting chance are not great in a life or death situation they didnt create, vs who is most likely to be the aggressors, conservative white men.

My take on it is that the cat is already out of the bag. In a perfect world I would prefer not having easy to operate life-ending tools spread freely throughout the country, but that's not the reality we live in. The best shot we have is to even the playing field so to speak even with the downsides it presents. The current status quo is letting terrorists gun us down with impunity and that doesn't sit well with me.

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

Carrying doesn't do crap for self defense. The moment a crazy asshole pulls their gun at you and shoots you won't even be able to comprehend the situation quick enough and get your own piece out of the holster.

The crazy asshole always wins as they shoot first (they are usually cowards on top, so you might just get shot in the back).

More guns just leads to more crazy assholes with guns, I feel much safer in European countries.

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[-] [email protected] 84 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's odd, I don't think I've ever heard of a lefty or a gay person outright killing someone over a Dixie or Trump flag. I keep reading about far-righties killing people over the scary rainbow flag though

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[-] [email protected] 68 points 11 months ago

How much of a pussy do you have to be to go shoot somebody over a rainbow flag. What a fucking fairy. People are so sensitive these days and don't know how to act. We can blame the internet all we want, but at the end of the day, people need to learn to have some social skills. How to talk disagreements out and let people have an opinion, even if it may be wrong or stupid in their eyes. It absolutely infuriates me that people gotta die over stupid shit.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago

In like 2021 when the truckers were protesting g the vaccine at the border I made a man snap in public over what was legitimately a luke-warm shot at the protest.

I said something like "these dipshits are acting like they didn't get their mandated MMR shots already." And a guy next to me, not in the conversation, dramatically stood up, and loudly announced "You know what?! All you fuckin idiots think the situation is simple, but it's a lot more fucking complex that the corporate media is making it out to be!" He stormed out. Didn't pay his tab.

The whole bar just sat there in awe. Like "damn I guess some of us really got hit with that isolation crazy"

Truly, a year alone for some was just too much.

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[-] [email protected] 65 points 11 months ago

Just another example of far-right extremist violence.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's just regular conservative violence at this point.

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[-] [email protected] 58 points 11 months ago

Ever notice how there's no such thing as a liberal hate crime?

"We are all domestic terrorists".

How much more do we have to put up with before we do something about this? Sadly I'm guessing it's a lot more.

[-] [email protected] 54 points 11 months ago

If I am ever killed over my rainbow stuff, I'm haunting the son of a bitch who killed me as a rainbow.

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[-] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago

They want you dead. It's time to return this sentiment.

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[-] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago

Everyone talking about the victim, etc what happened to the murderer? Is they in prisión now?

[-] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago

According to the article they were shot and killed by law enforcement

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[-] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago

"The suspect was found and shot dead by responding officers"

I don't think they made it to jail.

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago

Is this the start of them hunting down libs? Party of law and order people.

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