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[–] [email protected] 267 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The bio of the victim from her store's website:

Lauri Carleton's career in fashion began early in her teens, working in the family business at Fred Segal Feet in Los Angeles while attending Art Center School of Design. From there she ran “the” top fashion shoe floor in the US at Joseph Magnin Century City. Eventually she joined Kenneth Cole almost from its inception and remained there for over fifteen years as an executive, building highly successful businesses, working with factories and design teams in Italy and Spain, and traveling 200 plus days a year.

With a penchant for longevity, she has been married to the same man for 28 years and is the mother of a blended family of nine children, the youngest being identical twin girls. She and her husband have traveled the greater part of the US, Europe and South America. From these travels they have nourished a passion for architecture, design, fine art, food, fashion, and have consequently learned to drink in and appreciate the beauty, style and brilliance of life. Their home of thirty years in Studio City is a reflection of this passion, as well as their getaway- a restored 1920's Fisherman's Cabin in Lake Arrowhead. Coveting the simpler lifestyle with family, friends and animals at the lake is enhanced greatly by their 1946 all mahogany Chris-Craft; the ultimate in cultivating a well appreciated and honed lifestyle.

Mag.Pi for Lauri is all about tackling everyday life with grace and ease and continuing to dream…

What a waste. A tragedy for that whole family for literally nothing. No reason at all other than small minded assholes.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, it's the second civil war starting. Expect to see more terrible garbage like this on your feeds as we reach 2024 and beyond.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

there aren't enough psychopaths to have a civil war over lgbt flags

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Don't tempt fate by challenging it.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bring it on fate. You useless fucking concept developed by village shamans

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Not just the shamen, but the shawomen, and shachildren, too!

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (50 children)

These same people couldn't go three weeks without a haircut in 2020. There are some who'll shoot someone over a pride flag, but not enough to fight a war. They'd be begging to surrender the first time their grocery order doesn't arrive.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

if there's a civil war that stupid, then the country deserves to end

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, it's just a chance to finish the job Reconstruction failed to do.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it’s the second civil war starting

The first civil war never REALLY ended, just went a bit cold.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm curious, do you actually think there is going to be another civil war?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We're literally already in one. We've been in a cold civil war for about a decade now (arguably the past few decades), and the war's been growing hotter with every mass shooting and tragedy like this one.

This is how civil wars are fought in the modern age. It's not all fancy suits and muskets. It's large swaths of people with opposing views killing each other over it at every opportunity, like this one.

Why do you think school shootings happen? Or mass shootings in general? The vast majority of them are committed by members of right-wing hate groups and it's part of this civil war they've been waging against the left. The whole point is to eradicate the left or force them to submit to their will.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The first civil war never ended. It entered a cold phasw for 150 years or so. That's heating up now.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There were even people waving the battle flag of the Confederate army/navy when the neoconfederates invaded Congress on January 6, 2021.

I still can't believe that these people are getting such light sentences for taking up arms and invading the Capitol.

[–] prole 6 points 1 year ago

If they were communists, they'd have been executed by now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

A viewpoint like that is very subject to confirmation bias. Literally any crime is held up as evidence that it is correct. Look at the terms you are using "cold" "about a decade". It isn't a who, what, where, why, and how. It is vague.

Reverse it for a moment. Treat it like a claim in science. What evidence would you use to try to prove your hypothesis wrong?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Here’s a podcast where the first handful of episodes lays out what it’d look like if a civil war were to happen and why the author thinks there’s a reasonable chance that it could happen.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/it-could-happen-here/id1449762156?i=1000433661458

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do really like Robert Evans, but this is something I wholeheartedly disagree with. Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo could definitely happen, but I think it's far more likely that we'll see an American version of The Troubles. I don't think there are enough people who would truly be willing to fight and die over this; but there's plenty of people willing to commit terrorist bombings or acts of sabotage if they think they can get away with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the most likely scenario is a dissolution limitation, similar to what happened with the soviet union.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The Soviet Union didn’t collapse from political rhetoric and hurt feelings.

And the morons with enough guns and ammo to fight a war are far too economically comfortable to want actually want one.

If the shit really ever did hit the fan having a few chickens and a garden is going to get you a lot farther than a few thousand rounds.

[–] prole 3 points 1 year ago

I haven't listened to the podcast, so maybe I'm wrong... but isn't the "it" in "it could happen here" referring to fascism, not a second civil war?

Pretty important distinction imo

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