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Trump is nullifying federal employee union contracts negotiated in Biden’s final days.

Affected contracts include one with the Education Department ratified just before his inauguration. Trump cited a 2010 Supreme Court decision to justify his stance but did not provide a clear legal basis.

Federal employee unions, representing 800,000 workers, vowed legal action, calling Trump’s move unlawful intimidation.

This continues Trump’s prior efforts to weaken job protections, with additional plans to reclassify and lay off civil servants.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don’t think that is how contacts work.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

It is for Trump. He routinely ignores contractually responsibilities on his part.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago

It is if you own the courts.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

Seriously...how long before someone finds a way to put one in his brain pan? Every day he pisses a new group off...it's gotta happen sooner or later.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago

Ignore contracts you don't like, 100% on brand

[–] Sabre363 194 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Unions have a long and violent history of not wanting to be fucked with, we'll see how well this plays out for the orange Cunt

[–] [email protected] 97 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (11 children)

These are a bunch of civil servants, not tradespeople. Trade unions are the ones you don't fuck with.

[–] Sabre363 80 points 2 days ago

Piss enough people off and it don't matter the flavor of union

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I suspect trades unions might join with them in solidarity. The civil servants would have to put themselves on the line, but I think they would have support.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Don't rule out civil servants. One thing that's great about civil service is plenty of PTO available to hit the range.

I've been out shooting, and working on my shooting drills a lot over the past month. Also been introducing more people to firearms, and hosting some first aid classes (Stop the Bleed and CPR). What have you been doing over the past month?

[–] vaultdweller013 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Just a friendly reminder that multiple Roman emperors were killed by bureaucrats.

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[–] [email protected] 171 points 2 days ago (1 children)

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago

Get up and get to it folks. Get sabotage manuals etc while you can, and try to do so using Tor.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 day ago (2 children)

All I have to say, and I said it on that day of the RNC, but fuck that union guy for actually thinking the GOP gave 2 shots about unions after generations of fighting like Hell to gut them. Also fuck him for not endorsing the candidate who, while not necessarily a friend of unions, certainly wouldn’t have been actively working against them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Also fuck him for not endorsing the candidate who, while not necessarily a friend of unions, certainly wouldn’t have been actively working against them.

Biden, however, was actively working against the union workers... And Harris said she would have done the same thing.

It goes back to while Trump was lying about intent to solve the problems, he at least stated publicly the problems were real.

And it goes back to Dems thinking people owe them their votes, rather than working hard to earn the votes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Yes and to further compound the DNC fucking up messaging the vote is suppressed in the US and population center votes count for less than rural ones.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7wC42HgLA4k

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/14/politics/restrictive-voting-laws-brennan-report/index.html

https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/block-the-vote-voter-suppression-in-2020

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean I can understand him not wanting to endorse Kamala when she directly told him we can win with or without you. That doesn't exactly sound like the kind of person you would want to endorse if they don't even seem to really care about you or the people you represent. But yeah endorsing Trump was a stupid move, he really should have just not endorsed either of them.

[–] thatKamGuy 21 points 1 day ago (8 children)

At least in hindsight, it proves her wrong and that they can’t win without the unions?

So like, maybe the DNC will be self-aware enough to reflect upon this and pivot back towards more progressive, worker-friendly policies rather than the neo-liberal garbage they’ve been espousing for the better part of the 2000s?

I almost burst out laughing at the absurdity of the above, but in the words of Jim Carey’s character from Dumb and Dumber: “So you’re saying there’s a chance?”

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

maybe the DNC will be self-aware

Lol

[–] thatKamGuy 8 points 1 day ago

Yup, pretty much!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I thought Harris’ tone-deaf moment was in response to him deciding not to endorse a candidate rather than the other way around. Maybe I’m confusing union bosses, but I didn’t think the guy who spoke at the RNC endorsed either ticket in the end.

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[–] [email protected] 150 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Throw out the Union contact? Then union members need to... go on strike. That's the power they have, and the only reason we've been able to get some worker protections.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 day ago (6 children)

That's also pretty damn close to what Trump genuinely wants - for everyone currently doing the work to quit. That way he can install lackeys across the board.

Strikes normally work because the other side wants something - usually the business owner wants labor to create a product. That isn't the case here.

I'm not saying it's pointless, but the classic strategies will need to be rethought.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (9 children)

unions around the country need to join in sympathy strikes

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[–] Voroxpete 10 points 1 day ago

Trump, and the Republicans in general, seriously underestimate just how much stuff the US government actually does, and how much institutional knowledge is required to do it. A widespread federal worker strike would be disastrous for them, and trying to replace all of those people with lackeys would be even more disastrous, because none of them would have the slightest clue what they are doing. And yes, I'm well aware that the Republicans are trying to sabotage the government, but going about it this way would have the opposite effect; everything coming crashing to a halt overnight would drive home to voters, in a really big way, just how much it is that the government actually does for people.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Are there enough lackeys? If quality falls through the floor as well, won't it just further cement how dumb this whole strategy is? We may be taking lessons that it'll take a few years to learn but...

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

I plan to throw trumps face on the ground

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

After he finishes off the federal employee unions, he will pursue the destruction of the private unions creating 4th World working conditions for the US labor force. For those union members who guzzle down the Orange Kool-Aid, go piss in the wind and you fucked yourselves.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I've read pieces on how many union members (not leaders) are drinking GOP kool aid and support Trump and trumpy stuff.

In other words, everything is propaganda, and everything is screwed :(

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

Indeed, there are plenty of chauvinists, racist and 2A freaks in the unions that fail to realize they are placing their careers in jeopardy.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hah! The presidency sure does provide a lot of power but he's about to find out just where that ends. If 800,000 workers go on strike he and his cronies won't be able to exist in their rich person bubbles.

The runways will be closed. The borders won't let them in or out. Public transport everywhere will stop functioning. The banks will be forced to stop letting them send money due to laws regarding transaction reporting that go through Federal union employees (I mean, I guess they could try to live their rich person lives with nothing but transactions under $10,000 🤷).

Just about everything going on in the US from a logistics and economic perspective relies on the work of Federal union employees. They don't even need to go on strike (which would technically be illegal but if Trump doesn't need to follow the law why should federal employees‽). They could just reduce everything to a crawl and it would have the same effect.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm so tired of people proclaiming that NOW finally, Trump will see the consequences of his chaotic stupidity and petulant egocentrism!

No, he's not going to "find out" anything, because he does not give a fuck who suffers and his supporters will gargle his balls no matter what he does.

You're absolutely right about the consequences of this latest crime, except for the part where Trump in any way feels anything negative about the experience.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Hes trying to get them to quit. Going on strike would actually help him achieve his goals by repalcing them with more loyalist

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

contracts involving federal law enforcement would be exempted

So Biden’s contracts are still legitimate if saying otherwise would upset the thug class

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Of course he does. He's a bastard.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

yes, yes it is. now how do we organize 15-30% of the country for meaningful direct action?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I wonder whether this is his play book:

  1. Be shitbag to workers
  2. Force general strike
  3. Demonize victims who've resorted to only leverage to get fair working conditions (back)

I further bet it's the one translated from Russian.

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