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[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I liked Trek before Alex Kurzman stuck his filthy fingers in it and made entire franchise a steaming pile of dog shit.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It reminds me of those people that claim The X-Men have gotten "woke" even though that's been the whole point of the comic since the 60's or worse yet those poor souls out there who thought Rage Against the Machine was getting too political lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

Reminds me of a YouTube comment under the video where they got cut of during a bbc live take for singing "fuck" after the production team brieft them to not sing fuck: "What machine they thought they rage against? The printer?"

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"Please, if you find one of our songs that isn't political, please show it to me so I can verify and have it removed." - Tom Morello

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

There's a lot in renegades

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder what these people think "the machine" means 😭

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Fuck you, I won't print what you tell me

Fuck you, I won’t print what you tell me

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago

If first interracial kiss on TV is Woke then I don't wanna be anything but.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I never understood that complaint about Star Trek. The series has ALWAYS been woke since the beginning.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

True in a way, but it was more philosophical and not "in your face". It made you think about it, and the story was way waay better and deeper than today's pew-pew starwars approach to star trek. Every episode had a meaning and a lession.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Oh, OG Trek was woke AF, but it wasn't done as ham-handed and hackey as what is happening now. It used to feed open-mindedness into everyone's living room and was generally welcome to do so. What we have now is just slapping you in the face with its floppy cock of wokeness every chance it gets. There is now almost no actual plot other than that. Doctor Who is doing the exact same thing. Can nothing of my childhood just be left the fuck alone? I mean, yeah, represent the marginalized. Make female heroes, or transgender, or whatever and whoever you feel needs to be represented or empowered. Do all of that, but do you have to rewrite absolutely everything ever written to do it? Have an original thought. Honestly, at this point, it is just lazy writing masquerading as woke.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I think this is generally what I hear when it comes to "woke" media. I always chalk it up to media having no clue on how normal humans function in a society.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago

Don't forget The Measure of a Man. We literally watched that in 9th grade American History, as a commentary about slavery.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No mebtion of space communism? The federation is Marxist

[–] [email protected] 13 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

The Federation is not Marxist, communist, or socialist. These economic systems rely on a monetary framework where scarcity dictates value. In the Star Trek universe, scarcity has been eliminated on Earth. There is no energy crisis, no poverty, and no starvation. Transportation is instantaneous, and every individual's basic needs are met. With no financial struggle, humanity is no longer constrained by the pursuit of wealth. The Federation is not built on enforced equality but on a shared enlightenment. With abundant resources, every person enjoys a high standard of living.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

When you are in post scarcity and everyone has everything they need and everyone works together ina government for mutual benefit that's Marxist communism.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Well

End-game socialist

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I mean Sisko kind of does when he describes how the Bell riots have to take place before we unite as a planet and join the Federation

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My favorite detail of the TNG episode "The Outcast" is that the writers were pushing for an episode that touched on sexuality but Rick Berman wouldn't go for it. So the writers gave a figurative "fuck you" and wrote an episode on gender identity instead.

And while Berman was occupied holding TNG back the DS9 writers had enough freedom to use the Dax symbiote's multiple lifetimes to explore sexuality instead.

[–] QuantumSparkles 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Does anyone else remember that TNG had a recurring background character who was just a regular crewman but he always wore a Star Fleet dress or skirt that would just walk around in the background of scenes? He may have had heels as well, I can’t remember. Regardless I always thought it was neat that they never made a big deal out of it or a joke

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Its a type of uniform called a Skant. It was TNG trying to make the TOS miniskirts unisex. It only lasted a couple seasons I think, but it's gotten a couple callbacks on Lower Decks.

Nobody wears Skant's anymore

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Trek on gender: "Don't care, will smash" -- Kirk & Ryker

PS: Memba when Ryker was captured by a pre-First Contact civ and he had to bribe a nurse with an alien kink with sex in order to escape? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

*"Will smash, won't even think about care"

And even when Wesley momma didn't want to smooch with the nice parasitic lady it was respectfully addressed.
(How or why was all that kept quiet in the first place just remained a barely plastered-over plot hole.)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago

The soul is willing but the flesh is spongey and bruised!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I remember that being a little more "coercive and rapey" than bribing, since the nurse was the one who demanded "fuck me and I'll set you free, or you can wait for whatever they are going to do to you."

I get Riker is full of fucks to give, but he didn't seem terribly pleased with not having a choice.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I don't know about woke but I liked Trek before it got boring and poorly written -_-

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

That’s basically all it is: Media getting “too big to fail” and then neutering its writing quality by committee. It tries to tell socially progressive stories at the same time, so people associate the two.

A streamer pointed out the cognitive dissonance people have, when “anti-woke” people played Baldur’s Gate 3. It was gender expressive and diverse…but it was also GOOD writing. So they decided it was”wasn’t woke”.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

We have The Orville today for good Trek

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really tried to like that show but it's just ... Bad. To each their own but I'd rather just rewatch TNG or whatever other Star Trek. That show feels like it doesn't have an identity, the writers couldn't decide what kind of show they were writing and the acting is subpar.

Of course, if you enjoy it that's all that really matters - keep on watching and having fun!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

How far did you make it? Season 1 is a bit painful, Season 2 is better but Season 3 is a big shift.

Seth McFarland's humor is not very good...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not very far lol, a couple episodes to give it a fair shake though, do you have an episode recommendation?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Just echoing here that it does take awhile to get going.

Honestly, despite what I'm about to say below, I probably wouldn't recommend it now (just on signal to noise ratio) if not for https://thecinemaholic.com/the-orville-season-4/ giving hope for more story, or unless you happened to be a superfan of Seth McFarlane.

My .02 -

Season 1 -

First reaction - wow this DOES feel like TNG.

Second reaction - WAY too much Family-Guy style humor.

I like humor in my scifi, and I like Family-Guy style humor (during its heyday anyhow). Season 1 episode 7 almost made me turn it off. No one trying to pay homage to trek should be writing in something like this as a first contact "mistake". IMO in S1 we learned that Family-Guy style humor doesn't always work in live action.

Season 2 - Better, but still trying to find the right blend. It's been awhile now, but I think S2 got better and better over time and had some pretty good eps.

Season 3 - Really great, hit their stride, perfect blend of humor and drama, super disappointed when it was cancelled.

Season 4 - See link above. If they can recapture S3 vibes I'm excited for it, but I'm not 100% confident they will. Fingers crossed.

 

With all that said, if you are considering it at all, I'd just watch it all. That way you get the evolution of the show, the running gags, and don't miss any significant bits that are sprinkled through, and you know all the road that has been traveled when they get to S4. It's only three seasons and it's not a long show. Yes, some of it is cringe, but so was some of the early seasons of TNG.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Season 1 episode 10

If you don’t like it I don’t think you will care for the rest

Season 2 Episode 8-9 is a two part episode that is good but I wouldn’t recommend jumping into it because it’s not as good if you don’t care about the characters

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can't stomach McFarlane unfortunately. I'm told it gets better later on but his sense of humor is just like nails on a chalkboard to me. Couldn't get myself to finish the first season.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

My partner and I have a theory that MacFarlane pitched The Orville as “Family Guy in space,” and he got to make it because of his success with Family Guy. But the actual goal he had all along was to make Star Trek.

In order to keep the game up and get a second season, he had to sell the pitch at least a bit. So the early episodes are like Star Trek with cringey Family Guy-esque jokes. But as the series goes on, the cringe stops, the jokes slow down, and the plots get deeper.

I can’t stand cringe humor and did not consider myself a fan of MacFarlane, but The Orville changed that.

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