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[–] [email protected] 209 points 4 days ago (9 children)

honestly - while a Mac is certainly less painful to use than winshit, putting rubbish files recursively into each(!!) accessed folder, on all thumbdrives ever inserted, that's something Jobs deserves to burn in hell for.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

You'd want that, but a lot of programs do that, both in Windows and Linux.

e.g. The .directory files with the [Desktop Entry] spec by freedesktop.org
Dolphin has the option to enable/disable the feature

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 days ago (1 children)

FWIW Dolphin only does it if the filesystem doesn't provide a way to add that metadata directly to the directory and you change the view configuration for that directory away from your standard configuration. Which is how the standard describes to do it. (Some file managers incorrectly add those .directory files to every directory you visit.)

A mac will add a .DS_Store file to any directory just by breathing on it.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

today I learned - using Linux at home since 2005ish and I have never had an auto-file generated on any USB attached drives of mine...

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 4 days ago (3 children)

…and whoever decided a file system should be case insensitive by default, I hate you.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The moment when you try to rename a folder in windows from Hello to hello and it doesn't work.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes, so annoying especially when using source control which is case sensitive.

Rename Hello hello2

Commit

Rename hello2 hello

Commit

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (4 children)

NTFS absolutely supports case sensitivity but, presumably for consistency with FAT and FAT32 (Windows is all about backwards compatibility), and for the sake of Average-Joe-User who's only interaction with the filesystem is opening Word and Excel docs, it doesn't by default.

All that said, it can be set on a per-directory basis: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/case-sensitivity

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

MacOS uses the APFS file system format nowadays, and used HFS+ before that. FAT and ExFAT formats are supported too. However, the NTFS format needs third party software to work.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (9 children)

What's the use case for case sensitive file names

[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (26 children)

Well an uppercase ASCII char is a different char than its lowercase counterpart. I would argue that not differentiating between them is an arbitrary rule that doesn't make any sense, and in many cases, is more computationally difficult as it involves more comparisons and string manipulations (converting everything to lower case).

And the result is that you ultimately get files with visually distinct names, that aren't actually treated as distinct, and so there is a disconnect from how we process information and how the computer is doing it.

'A' != 'a', they are just as unequal as 'a' and 'b'

Edit: I would say the use case is exactly the same as programming case sensitivity, characters have meaning and capitalizing them has intent. Casing strategies are immensely prevalent in programming and carry a lot of weight for identifying programmers' intent (properties vs backing fields as an example) similar intent can be shown with file names.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

On Mac when I rename a folder from “FOO” to “foo” git sees them as the same folder so no change is committed. In JavaScript I import a file from “foo” so locally that works. Commit my code and someone else pulls in my changes on their machine. But on their machine the folder is still “FOO” so importing from “foo” doesn’t work.

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 4 days ago (1 children)

See also: Let's roll our own .zip implementation that only Mac can reliably read for....reasons

[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 days ago (1 children)

every time i get a zip file from a mac user it has a folder with random junk in it. what's up with that? i can open the files without it so clearly those files are unnecessary

[–] [email protected] 74 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Metadata that's a holdover from the 1980s MacOS behavior. Hilariously, today, NTFS supports that metadata better than Apple's own filesystems of today. They can hide it in Alternate Data Streams.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 days ago

Every fucking folder in the file share has one of these

[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I saw somebody with Nintendo .DS_store as a username

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Hmm.. Smells like a windows user aswell.. Look at that:

~~.desktop~~ desktop.ini

Edit: fixed the filename

[–] [email protected] 132 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 84 points 4 days ago

System Volume Information

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I've caught the whiff of some Linux too...

lost+found

[–] [email protected] 76 points 4 days ago (5 children)

you should do this with every one of these cases. btw, where does .Trash-1000 actually come from?

[–] [email protected] 85 points 4 days ago

Freedesktop.org’s trash specification. It’s where files moved to trash go before being deleted when it’s emptied. The 1000 is the user id.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 days ago

.Trash-999 was already taken by a metal band.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 days ago

Found one of these in the firmware zip file of my soundbar today.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (9 children)

I would also like a word with “bonjour” process while we’re at it.

Thought it was a virus when I first discovered it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Isn’t bonjour the reason that devices like printers famously worked so much better on Mac than windows? I feel like I read an article about that like a decade or two ago.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (4 children)

"Bonjour, i'm here to fuck shit up"

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[–] mindbleach 42 points 4 days ago

__MACOSX folders hither and yon.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 days ago (3 children)

defaults write com.apple.desktopservices DSDontWriteNetworkStores -bool TRUE

Helps a bit.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Where did this art come from? It seems like the cover to a tabletop wargame about the french and indian war or something.

[–] sjmarf 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/white-man-has-been-here

In 2000, American painter Robert Griffing created a painting titled, Friend or Foe, wherein, two Native American hunters are examining footprints made in the snow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Super cool, I realized I was thinking of the wargame A Few Acres Of Snow by martin wallace (the designer of the modern classics, Brass Birmingham and Brass Lancashire)

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/79828/a-few-acres-of-snow

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago (20 children)

Just gitignore that. Same for dot idea and whatever vscode adds, if anything

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ya, but that .idea is not inserted in eleven thousand sub folders.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I am not exactly a programmer. What is the .DS_Store file for?

[–] the_crotch 35 points 4 days ago

Kind of a mac's version of desktop.ini. Remembers layouts and other metadata about a folder.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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