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Hello everyone,

@[email protected] created [email protected] to synchronize efforts to promote the Fediverse on existing social media (e.g. that Reddit thread on /r/Technology which got a few people joining Lemmy)

Spaduf wasn't aware of the existence of [email protected] , which is an existing community focused on the internal growt on the Fediverse, mostly between mods and regular posters trying to make Lemmy/Mbin/Piefed communitied grow.

To avoid confusion between the two communities, we are thinking about a potential new community to replace [email protected], but with a different name.

Potential options we came up with:

What do you all think? Do you have any other ideas for the name of that new community?

Edit to clarify as it seems it wasn't as obvious in the post: the objective is to keep [email protected] with its current focus: growth of communities already here (so more internal), while the new community would be about advocacy and promotion of the Fediverse on other places (so more external).

Having two communities seems better as people busy with keeping their communities active aren't automatically interested in promoting the Fediverse externally, and vice versa.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Honest question: what is the goal here? As a user, I don’t care much about the fediverse as a concept. As a Reddit refugee, I love Lemmy and that is worth promoting as far as I am concerned. I was never into twitter, and mastodon doesn’t appeal to me. But if people want to promote it, go for it. As a techie, the fediverse is an interesting concept, but not one you’re going to get the general public interested in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

FYI: there is already a Fediverse Marketing Community as part of https://fediforum.org/projects/. How about joining forces with the people who are already there instead of duplicating effort?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 32 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

In general, I think communities shouldn't splinter until there's a need. IMO both efforts should just use [email protected], and title posts in a way that makes the distinction clear. They're both about growing the Fediverse in the end. If and when it becomes too much to keep in the same comm, then you'd split it up. That's just my opinion as an internet rando though 🤷

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

Having two communities seems better as people busy with keeping their communities active aren’t automatically interested in promoting the Fediverse externally, and vice versa.

Same reason there is [email protected] separated from [email protected] , the intent and type of content are different

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Ew

It's quite a lot worse than "fediverse," and "fediverse" was already pretty bad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I like it, but also sounds like federation porn.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

I mean, of the hundreds of communities I've blocked so far, I feel like a solid half of them were furry porn, so honestly that tracks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

fedipromote

fediversepromotion if you feel the need for a lot more letters, but y tho? 😉

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

What they are doing is essentially promotion. So that, or something along the line is more appropriate.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Why not literally just here? Growth news are already posted here and the people subbed to this will care about the concept. It's by far the biggest of the lot too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's less about news and more about advocacy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Yes but both in one community makes sense since people who advocate will care about the news and people who care about the news care enough to maybe advocate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Does Lemmy have the equivalent of Reddit flair? That made some posts easier to avoid or focus on that others.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Tags are coming soon, which I think would be equivalent:

https://lemmy.ml/post/24645977

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I think fediverse_migration or fediverse_procelytization is best :) I personally don’t like “fedi”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

Thank you for your feedback!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

Fedifriends

[–] [email protected] 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Obligatory https://xkcd.com/927/

I wouldn't call it anything with just "support" in the name, or I'd imagine you're going to get a lot of tech support questions regarding Fediverse software.

And keep in mind the attention span on the internet is reading half of the title of something. So the topic of conversation has to be very clear from the name alone.

Or maybe you want to join efforts? It's still not clear to me whether both are about the same thing, just on different instances. I think both fedigrow and growthefediverse are good names that make it clear what it's about. What about fedipromotion? or promotethefediverse? But I don't think my ideas are as good...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

I wouldn’t do fediverse support because it sounds too much like lemmy_support

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago

One strategy that I'd like to specifically promote is fediverse users calling attention to spaces of the internet where people are talking about the fediverse but there's relatively few users there that can share their experience.

To that end I've been considering things like:

  • Fedimigration Reinforcements
  • Fedimigration Support Team

Keep in mind that whatever name we pick will also be the hashtag that the Mastodon contingent of this project will end up using. As it stands, they would see posts from this community under #growthefediverse

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Why confusion? It’s good there is more than one community! Can’t trust any instance to stay up

Edit: I’m was yapping and missing the point

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The issue is that they have very similar names while being different. I edited the post to make it more clear.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I personally think lemmy users for the most part are technical enough to get that based on the descriptions you two may add. Those communities already have followers right?

I know [email protected] is not gonna censor me like [email protected] is though they “have the same name.”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Those communities already have followers right?

[email protected] was created less than one week ago

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

[email protected] is the mis-named one. "To discuss how to grow and manage communities on Lemmy" is not really about evangelizing the whole fediverse to people outside. It could be more outward focused, but if you look at the posts in that community you'll see it's very much not what is being discussed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

I would say it's a different type of growth. A topic that regularly comes up is consolidation of similar communities (the most recent example being [email protected] as the suggested alternative to [email protected] [email protected] , [email protected] , [email protected] etc.)

So it's a type of growth, but more internal than external.

Having two communities seems better as people busy with keeping their communities active aren’t automatically interested in promoting the Fediverse externally, and vice versa.

[–] AwesomeLowlander 2 points 20 hours ago

Perhaps, but it's a bit too late to rename an existing and active community.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I think there is more of a need to make the fediverse feel like a community. Use my account on one service as a automatic validation to any other without requiring a formal sign up. Something like how "login with GitHub" etc. works. If these were interconnected in a low effort and seamless way, the existing community would be less of a walled garden and more of a culture. Posting video, pics, blogs, or even more forum like persistent topic threads should be seamless. In my opinion pursuing growth as a community has small returns. Becoming the most effective tool and the path of least resistance while being positive and stable is the real key to large scale growth. Updating LW is absolutely critical for Lemmy's future IMO and is our weakest link.

These were the thoughts that came to mind after I saw fedigrow. That name was very intuitive.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

I've been saying this the entire time I've been here.

You shouldn't have a lemmy account, and a mastodon account, and a pixelfed account, and a peertube account, and a misskey account........you should have 1 account. A fediverse account. One account, you log into and any activity you have on your array of services would go to one account.

So if you post a picture on pixelfed, and a someone says "oh, thats a pretty butterfly!" And then you post a video on peertube about the ghostbusters, someone might reply "Oh, slimer is my favorite". And BOTH replies go to the same notification area, and you canreply from the same page.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I say use one of the existing ones, making another 3rd community because there's now 2 seems silly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

The new one would replace [email protected]

[email protected] would stay the same. I edited the OP to clarify

[–] Barbarian 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I like where you going with it. But if this community here is thriving, I wouldn't suggest changing it because you'll lose people in the transfer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

this community here is thriving

Which one? [email protected] , [email protected] or [email protected] ?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

Fediversal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

Took me a second to figjre out why you named it that, but the Fediverse is more than JUST Lemmy. That'd be a great name for something promoting Lemmy to reddit users though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

in order to promote the growth of the fediverse, we want to merge these two communities from two different instances into a third one.

Feels weird.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

No, we want to keep [email protected] on its current instance with its current objective.

The question is about the other one, which is about promotion of the Fediverse rather than growth of communities already here

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

fediverserailroad