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Thinking of starting media creation, want to have an email address dedicated to that purpose. Don't want to go with Gmail as I'd like to phase Google out of my life, amd Protonmail seems i correct for this because it largely wouldn't be encrypted mail.

Recommendations?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Fastmail and bring your own domain is the way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I'm happy with Fastmail. Making masked emails is great to me, and you can bring your own domain with you. It also is integrated with 1password.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

As always, I recommend Posteo. It's cheap (1€/mo), allows third party apps and at least their website doesn't have any trackers or ads. Probably the best paid one out there.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Bring your own domain.

You don't want to be locked in to one mail provider for life. Just bring your domain when you leave.

I've had mine since 2010. First on Gmail, then proton and now purelymail. Gmail is evil. Proton is pricy, and more so if you have several domains. Purelymail is very affordable in comparison.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Iirc my email on proton is encrypted. I believe I set it up that way. Good provider for me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

Before the CEO of Proton came out as a nutjob I might have been inclined to agree...

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 day ago (11 children)

The CEO of Proton recently came out as a right wing partisan who supports American neofascism. I would look elsewhere for email providers, Proton is not as trustworthy as they purport to be.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 42 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago)

That line of thinking doesn't make any sense. I wonder what brand of clothes, electronics, vehicle, foods you're buying. I'm sure I can find more than one neofascist, companies that fully support the Maga movement, etc... At least Proton is actually working for a better, more private internet, for more open source softwares, and is now operated as a non profit that is audited yearly by a third party. And as other people have said, Proton is not reduced to the political ideas of one board member.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I would say he's a right-wing "Libertarian" not a maga supporter. People like him say dumb things all the time, Andy Yen is also not an American, so he might be just ignorant to what republicans actually do. If you check his twitter, he posted some pro-ukraine stuff, and has donated to Ukraine, and also is pro- Hong Kong protesters, anti-censorship in Russia and Iran.

Besides, he may be CEO, but he ain't a dictator of Proton.

[–] Reverendender 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, gotta find a new VPN also. What an asshole (the CEO).

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It was completely shocking, I would expect him to be smart enough not to make statements like that but I guess it's masks off now that their guy is in power.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Dude got a college degree in particle physics and thinks he so smart 🤓, that he think he also knows about American politics (a country he doesn't even live in) 🤦‍♂️

[–] Reverendender 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We're probably on a list now, for besmirching him.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m not scared. I’m a besmirching machine. He’ll know he’s been besmirched when I lay down some righteous besmirch upon him!

[–] Reverendender 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you would be laying down smirch, whilst besmirch describes the laying down process.

One who had blemished the fair escutcheon of the family by a smirch of heresy.

T. A. Trollope, Marietta

smirch, n.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nice. In that case I shall smirch him to the end, I shall smirch him on the seas and oceans, I shall smirch him with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, I shall smirch him on the beaches, I shall smirch him on the landing grounds, I shall smirch him in the fields and in the streets, I shall smirch him in the hills; I shall never unsmirch!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I totally smirched him in the parking lot.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

cough Mullvad cough

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you want a standards-based service without bullshit and with custom domain support, I can recommend Purelymail.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

Thanks for the suggestion, looks like a good service. I might switch!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Purelymail has been in beta since 2019. I am not sure if that is a good email provider.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve been using it for several months now and haven’t run into any issues.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

That's not the point. How can a software like this be in beta for 6 years? The developers clearly don't care about it much.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

... I'm not a purelymail user or know much about it... But, I guess I am old now...

I'm guessing the service being in beta for 6 years is a joke. It's a reference to Gmail being in beta forever.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I use mailbox.org with my own domains. And I encrypt my inbox using a PGP key I manage myself.

My setup is pretty much the same what Proton gives out of the box, I just manage my own keys rather than replying on the company.

Yes, my provider can see my unencrypted mails before my key encrypts it, but I trust them enough and I don't pass sensitive information using emails.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TriflingToad 10 points 1 day ago

that's a dope effect on mobile

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Buy a domain name and put that on the service provider of your choice.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But do not host your own email server unless you hate yourself.

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[–] captain_aggravated 18 points 1 day ago (10 children)

I have no basis by which to choose a service provider.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

The advantage of this approach is that you are not tied to a service provider indefinitely. You can keep the same email address when you change providers.

The stakes of selecting a "wrong" service provider aren't as high. If you find you chose the "wrong" one, you can change it in the future.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I recently set up some domains with FastMail at the recommendation of some other Lemmy users. Cheap, easy setup, all the features I wanted, and problem free so far!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I use FastMail as well. I actually went from FastMail to Proton, and then back to FastMail.

I configure a lot of my home networking equipment and servers to send me emails for things like installing software updates, reboots, and any possible security issues. I couldn’t make that work with Proton not supporting any standard mail protocols (I know about Bridge, but it requires a GUI, and I didn’t want to use a third party program).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I've been with them for 6 years and haven't looked back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yep, FastMail has been great in my experience! I use a few domains with them. Never had any issues.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I use Tuta for multiple domains and it's been an amazing experience so far.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Personally I've heard very good things about mailbox.org

It can be paid anonymously, if you want. There is no (real) free option, and you didn't mention if you were only looking at those, but your examples are mostly free.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Namecrane is hella cheap for lifetime rnow 70$ 250gb storage 15 sites, or 10$ a year reocurring 100gb storage 15 sites (I have this one), fast and easy to setup.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (5 children)

So when it comes to encryption for digital data there are really two concerns:

  1. encrypted at rest
  2. encrypted in transit

Your options for encrypted email providers are limited:

and Protonmail seems incorrect for this because it largely wouldn't be encrypted mail.

I'm curious why you think so?

Proton's inboxes are encrypted, so that's (1) handled.

For (2), Proton-to-Proton emails are automatically encrypted. Proton-to-WKD-enabled-services are also automatically encrypted:

Proton also supports automatic external key discovery with Web Key Directory (WKD). This means that emails sent to other providers which use WKD will be automatically encrypted with OpenPGP as well, without the need to manually exchange public PGP keys with your contacts.

And finally, emails to non-secure services can be encrypted, but you must provide the decryption password to the receiver through some other method. These emails can also be configured to automatically delete after a set expiration time.

This is the most feature-complete encrypted email service that I'm aware of, it basically covers all cases that it is possible for Proton to cover on their own service, anything more would require cooperation from the other service(s). No email service could possibly force an inbound email to be encrypted in transit, the sending service has to do that, and that's really the only part that Proton doesn't have a feature for (because it's impossible). If encryption is your concern, I don't think there are any better options right now.

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