Political Memes

Sorry, I meant they are not imposing here, on Lemmy. They are a minilority that often gets downvoted.

Also I try to not look at the US. It's always extreme, like watching a bad reality show.

Also known as aspiring nahtCs

Old conservatism was defending the monarchy.

The whole "advocating for individual choice and less government intervention" thing was always a lie that they told to dupe rubes into thinking their ideology wasn't elitist and abhorrent.

Actual conservatism is healthy and useful. I want part of my government to look at what laws and policies are being pushed and say, "should we be doing this?", "Should it cost that much?", "Do we have something that does this already?".

Unfortunately, the label has been co-opted, and it no longer strives to create the smallest effective government, but the largest totalitarian government instead.

The keyword is viewpoint. The inherent problem with conservatism across the globe, but obviously in the US, is the "viewpoint" is anti-science, anti-common-sense, and at worst disconnected from their policies.

I think there's a place on social media for people who believe tariffs could, over time and at great expense, bring manufacturing home and that some viewpoints want that. That's a viewpoint to debate. I do not think there's a place for people to deny climate change, there is no debate to be had there.

I think there's a place for people who want to discuss immigration policies and how best to balance the need for immigrants, the want for immigrants, the assimilation of immigrants, and the quantity/quality of immigrants. There's system design to be had there. I do not think there's a place for hate speech and dehumanization of immigrants as if they're bad people (or when they're used as political weapons like "caravans" in the US or "Sharia law").

It doesn't matter if conservatives agree with fixing healthcare or being against the rich, their politicians are only interested in using those as talking points because their allegiance is to their biggest donors which is big healthcare and the rich.

Conservatives across the globe, from everything I've seen in my admittedly short lifetime, are either anti-science/progress, pro-hate and emotionbaiting, or obvious liars.

In the US there is no Republican AOC or Bernie Sanders at the national level - who obviously and vocally are fighting for the workers. In Germany (where I am now) it's the conservative AFD party that is a neo-nazi party and it's the conservative CDU party that flirts with giving them partial power just to maintain their own power. Side tangent, it's the libertarian (read conservative-lite) FD party that sabotaged the left leaning coalition just last year.

The people that flirt with destruction and societal regression are the conservatives, so it's important that if they are allowed on any platform that their viewpoints are moderated. At least until they can stop flirting with fascism and lethal policies like remigration.

I kinda want them here so they can be exposed to leftist ideas and become thigh-high wearing, Linux using furries.

But that's probably just me huffing hopium