I think you missed the point where they want more of the "right people" whatever that means. They think they can outbreed everyone else and win by having the most right people. See just about every major religion as a case study for this.
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I feel like proper eugenics was pretty soundly debunked as people are more complicated than peas. I think that the only thing you can reliably predict is race.
And these people look like that Nazi from Raiders of The Lost Ark.
It was never soundly debunked in theory. We are animals and like all animals our offspring inherit traits from us. Hypothetically if you could agree on what "good traits" looks like you could selectively breed people based on those traits and get people who are more likely than average to have those traits. Keep doing it for generations upon generations and you'd get people optimized for those traits. Even without knowing what gene or genes are responsible.
The problem is that we're notoriously bad at deciding what is and is not in the set of "good traits" and tend to pick stupid shit like "being Aryan/white." Also forced/restricted breeding is unethical at best, and fucking monstrous on average. It's one of those things that goes in the bin of "it would probably work, but if we start doing it we've already become the villains".
There are 8 billion people in this world, and it will continue to grow until there are about 10 billion of us here. The world is dying because each of us takes too much, gives back too little and frankly, there are about 3 billion too many of us. The world is dying because there are too many humans AND THESE FUCKERS ARE SCARED THST BIRTH DECLINE WILL BE AN ISSUE? They actually advocate for more humans because if we don't, cultures will somehow disappear? Economies will collapse?
You know what will collapse all economies, soon enough? Climate change. It will fuck all and everything. There is a realistic chance that within a few decades tops, this "the world still generates enough food to feed everyone twice over, it's just that we keep throwing away most of the food over actually making sure it gets to the hungry"will turn into "the world can only generate enough food to feed about 5 billion or less of us".
How do you think your precious economy will respond to the ensuing wars and everything?
Why is it that even mentally deficient idiots like this can become "leaders" whilst actually smart people have to sit in the sidelines?
Oh yeah, sheer narcissism and psychopathy. They get you to the top of the food chain.
there are about 3 billion too many of us.
Even with modern agriculture at scale, the minimal-negative-impact, full-carrying-capacity population for a 100% vegan population would be 2B. With vegetarianism, 1,5B. With typical omnivory, on-par with American diets, 700M.
We are so f**king far past overshoot that it’s not even funny. And the strain on the ecology is absolutely obvious for those with the eyes to see.
Birth decline is a issue for the capitalist. Their scam depends on constant unending growth.
Infinite growth in a finite system.
Plus, they need plenty of low-wage, grindingly poor, economically desperate workers to maximize their own obscene profits. Which is why so many of them have gone all alt-right, because that’s who is taking away reproductive rights in a desperate attempt to goose birth rates.
Dude can't even get a proper fitting suit or shirt. He looks like someone who had to borrow his outfit for court
T'fuck is this about?
As if thousands of others aren't? Forget about the thousand other red flags, why even post this bullcrap?
'elite' couple
Can't be bothered with seeing properly
I actually quite like the idea that Humanity will survive as a result of these weird cunts and their breeding programme; but only as a race of subterranean mole people with too poor eyesight for the surface world.
We need miners that can work without light since the power is needed for generative AI.
No, you're thinking of the Morlocks. These idiots will obviously be the Elois.
The Collinses refuse to give their daughters traditionally feminine names, because they believe social research shows that women with feminine names are taken less seriously
Their daughters are named Titan Invictus and Industry Americus.
Yeah, this is sad. These are people in dire need of mental health care and they're not getting it because their narcissism is in the way.
We should make it so that when someone is too narcissistic that they need mental help, that we can force them. Their poor daughters will now have to live with this shit and become just like them and the cycle continues
That shit sounds like 4channers that got too much money, it's beyond stupid
That might even be true, but you know what names will be taken even less seriously? Titan Invictus and Industry Americus. 😂 Freaks creating freaks.
Invictus & Americus as standalone wouldn't be the worst names, but Titan & Industry? For women? Those "names" sound rough as sandpaper. These people are so book-smart, and without friends/contacts to keep them in touch with reality, they've become kinda dumb & fallen prey to delusions of grandeur.
Wiki on this couple is an amusing, terrifying, and short read. I was wondering what they do for work, what their contribution to the world is. The answer....not much... "Venture capitalism", so basically they're money farmers investing money to make money. A necessary role, but not directly producing anything themselves. And tech MGMT, again, probably not directly producing many works but cracking the whip & supervising other people doing work. Color me not impressed.
They claim they're not eugenicists, conflating eugenics with racism. Which simply isn't true, what a stupid thing to say. They are eugenicists, they actively screen & sort embryos, pursuing the best results. That is eugenics, and there's nothing particularly wrong with that. Very practical.
Both are the products of failed relationships, the man a classic failed marriage, the other a failed polyamorous marriage in Japan. They married after a proposal...over Reddit. Jesus Christ, am I on drugs? Is this real?
"Do you spank your kids?" "Oh, heavens no, how barbaric. Inspired by tigers in the wild, I slap my kids across the face. 😇" Lol!! Wth. 🙃 These kids will likely be mental trainwrecks (just like their parents) if they don't straight-up commit suicide.
As someone who grew up in a failed marriage sometimes I feel like it was a minor achievement for me to have a happy romantic life, but then I see people who look at how fucked up their parents were and say "hold my beer"
they could easily be Fallout characters lol. I am all into science and shit but Titan Invictus for god's sake? This is why we need parenting licenses to prevent people like these ruining childhoods.
Industry Americus
That's the grossest name I've ever heard. Look, I'm not even getting into the "Americus" part. Sure, that is... well, it's not a name I would've picked. But more importantly, it follows the word Industry, and whether alone or paired to American industries specifically, the images conjured up from that word are far from pleasant.
I picture smoke stacks belching into smoggy, yellow skies. I see poisoned streams flowing through dying ecosystems. I see tired workers being overworked and exploited.
What a great name for a cute little baby to be burdened with.
I had hoped that was an onion link
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breeding to save mankind from what, round heads and good eyesight?
They want to bring back the Habsburg chin.
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Nice, the ubermensch is back
And they look like they've spent a lot of time inside a locker.
The Collinses married after Malcolm proposed on Reddit in 2013.
Out of all the nuttiness of their Wikipedia page, that one stood out to me.
... They have a Wikipedia page? In the mentally ill people section, or what?
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Looks like they both might be genetically predisposed to myopia. Not very elite of them.
Myopia seems to be far more of a childhood environment thing than a genetic thing. For a long time it was thought to be from too much close viewing (reading books, sitting short distances from screens), but more recent research suggests it is more from lack of sun exposure. UV light prompts the formation of dopamine, and higher dopamine levels in the eyeball are required for it to maintain the optimal round shape as it grows.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_and_Malcolm_Collins
Well that's just a fucking trip of dysfunction.
Just that bit is a lot.
If the population declined and it makes the economy do less well, won't people just have more children like they did the last time the economy was in that state? Every environment has a carrying capacity for the creatures that live in it. It's not uncommon to see fluctuations above and below that equilibrium point.
Instead of pushing people to ignore the factors that cause the limit in humans, like not wanting or needing more children, maybe find a way to organize society so hitting that limit doesn't cause massive problems, or try to eliminate some of the factors creating the limit. It's insanely difficult in our society to have even one child who's healthy, cared for, and prepared for their adult life while also being personally healthy, prepared for old age, and enjoying the variety of pleasures of existence.
Ironic that they claim all of their decisions are backed by data, but still employ corporal punishment. That's something that had been quite definitively demonstrated to be far less effective than other measures.
Because they like the idea of supporting data but not the reality
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Absolutely adore this bit from the screenshot:
which is based on Simone's personal observations of lions and tigers on a safari trip.
Sad we have no studies on human children. But thankfully its perfectly reasonable for someone on holiday who's untrained in interpreting big cat behavior to decide whats good for a bunch of animals is good for human kids too.
I let my children eat trash out of dumpsters. I determined it was a good idea after personally observing raccoons while on a park trip.
The Collinses married after Malcolm proposed on Reddit in 2013.
Crickey
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Having worked in public policy for several years, the 26-year-old Londoner had come to an alarming realisation about the future of the UK, the world – and the human species.
She's 26?
What is "several" defined as here? 2? 3?
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