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I went to dunkin' the other day and asked for an iced latte with less ice because it's winter and I wanted less ice. They gave me a cup that was halfway full of coffee. So I asked why and they told me they press a button on a machine, it fills it halfway full with coffee and then they add ice. So when you get a medium iced latte, you're not actually getting a medium latte, you're getting a small or a kids size nowadays of coffee, and then they just fill the rest of it with ice. If you ask for less ice, no screw you, you're not getting the full amount of coffee that you paid for...

I have never heard of this in any other country. What the hell?

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

If you ask for less ice, no screw you, you’re not getting the full amount of coffee that you paid for…

Actually you got exactly what you asked for: you asked for a product with less of something...

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If they have a machine, you're getting exactly the full amount of coffee you paid for; you're just not getting more by removing a filler that they normally include, and that some people like. Now, I'm not saying there's anything morally wrong with gaming the menu at a giant chain if it can be done without fucking over the staff, or that it wouldn't be shitty if Dunkin' has done some sneaky shrinkflation, but there is a certain mechanical clarity here that I can't get too riled up about.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Yeah... you're be getting exactly the same amount of coffee you had been paying for before. Getting upset at how little that coffee amounts to normally is one thing, but getting upset with the notion that you are now getting -less- coffee is just silly.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I've never heard of a country where places give you extra drink for free just because you asked for less ice, to be honest. I know some bartenders who joke about the people who think asking for less ice will get them more.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So with a soda fountain or similar soft-drink dispenser at most fast-food or fast-casual restaurants int he US, asking for light ice or no ice will still get you a full cup. That said, the general understanding here has always been (don't know if it's strictly true across time and space) that the cups cost more than the drink, and even if the particular place is not offering free refills or you're ordering to-go, that's a pretty normal expectation so being stingy with the Coke would reflect poorly on the restaurant beyond the value of saving a little bit of syrup and CO2.

Dunkin' is definitely a massive fast-food chain, but a latte beverage, even iced, is kinda pushing the boundary of even what most Americans would expect with generous pours. OP might have reasonably hoped to get a full cup, but IMHO they shouldn't be disgruntled that they didn't get it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

As an (ex) bartender I know what you're talking about... we would never over pour a spirit ... but if asked we'd generally have no issue topping off the mixer. There is a difference. The literal difference between a modern iced beverage and an uniced one (depending on cup size and ice) can sometimes be 2-3 times the beverage... which while quite significant amounts to pennies in cost (if that.) More will be lost to a line cleaning, incorrect orders, etc than to a customer request. The fact that so many in this thread are defending the chain is mind boggling. This same chain likely has been upping the recommended ice and even potentially messing with the mix % to further dilute the beverage in the name of profit. Fuck that. These chains frequently show a cup size and list the oz on the container. They rarely, if ever, list the oz of the beverage in said cup because it would cause a riot. Unless they say 4oz of coffee per 12oz cup of iced coffee somewhere: the customer is absolutely right to expect however much coffee fits in the damn cup and not a drop less. That's what they were advertised- and that's what they paid for.

Some of y'all need to realize you're in a guilded cage and that you are indoctrinated by capitalist owners. This isn't even a big issue.

Edit:

Fucking lol. Jesus.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

You asked for a hamburger with no toppings and are surprised that you just got meat and buns.

They didn't give you less meat they just gave you less toppings. You're noticing the sandwich is pretty empty, because you ordered it that way

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If your barista just presses a button and hands you a cup, you're at the wrong place for coffee.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Did you expect them to offset the less ice with more coffee?

In my experience, many iced coffee drinks are made a bit warm and more concentrated. The ice melts a bit, diluting the drink and giving more liquid overall.

Do they do that to an extreme? Probably. But there's also more to it than "I got a drink with less ice and it wasn't very full"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is there a big difference in price and/or size if you'd order a normal latte? If not, yes, I'd 100% expect similar sizes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Again, part of the overall drink is supposed to be made of the water from melted ice. It's hard to compare sizes perfectly with that in mind, but it's a less-extreme similarity to comparing a jug of orange juice with a can of concentrate (the kind you mix with water in a pitcher at home). Different products, but also different sizes for a reason.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

It triggers you to receive exactly what they offer?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I went to dunkin'

Ordering coffee in the USA triggers me

As if Dunkin' Donuts is representative of the thousands of independent coffee shops around the US...

[–] Corkyskog 7 points 2 weeks ago

It's like the eastern Walmart of coffee shops. Pushing out all the local shops in small towns and replacing it with its subpar coffee and it's mass produced, small generic chemical tasting donuts.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

You are actually getting exactly the same amount of coffee you paid for, without the ice.
Which is half a cup full.

By the way, this isn't a "coffee in the USA" thing. It's a Starbucks thing.
In most diners, coffee shops and restaurants in the US, you get as much coffee as you want, with free unlimited refills.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you tried ordering a medium iced latte with light ice in other countries?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So these comments aren't going the way you thought they'd go...

I have never heard of this in any other country

Which countries give you more coffee than you paid for just because you asked for less ice?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

well, it used to be every country did this because they didn't have the portioning technology to prevent overpouring for those who asked for less or no ice (because they wanted extra beverage). people got used to be able to game the system, the companies knew they were doing this, and put an end to it the second they could.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If you went to any other coffee store that isn't a mcdonalds-ified chain, they would have given you what you wanted.

This is like you complaining about not getting a medium rare burger from mcdonalds.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

This “triggered” you?

I have to say, as a therapist who treats people with actual trauma, I find it mildly infuriating that people today use the word “triggered” to refer to something that mildly infuriates them. The concept of a mental health trigger refers specifically to something that reactivates a traumatic memory and induces serious distress in the person triggered. Using the term to refer to something that just annoys you trivializes and dilutes it as a term.

I get that language is a living thing and people who use the term this way don’t mean to be trivializing the issues of people who have real trauma, but it still irks me whenever I see people use that word this way.

You do you, OP, don’t take this as serious criticism. I just felt the need to get that off my chest.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

The iced latte incident. Just like back in 'Nam

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

No I understand this. When someone is pricing a product, they price it off of how much it costs to make a specific amount. In this case it would be the amount of coffee in the glass given the glass has ice. Additionally when buying coffee or alcohol you are paying for the coffee or alcohol by the shot (30ish ml) and that is then diluted. For your case it would be diluted in milk. So by ordering without ice you are either going to get a diluted product, more than what you paid for or a less full glass.

I mean come on they literally gave you exactly what you asked for. What do you expect of a drink that you specifically asked for an ingredient to be removed from. Obviously you are gonna get less. They teach this shit in grade school. Would you prefer them to have just topped your cup with water, if so fucking ask ughh.

Sincerely a bartender sick of everyone's shit.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think this is about presentation,

If you had ordered a hot latte, they would have put it in a cup so it looked full.

If you order just a ice latte, then put it in a cup so it would look full.

You ordered something they hadn't designed for, and it's really up to the barista at the moment to decide how to handle it. At larger organizations they probably just have a policy, it's smaller organizations the barista might top you up.

If you're not getting a good experience, switch locations.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'll just get my popcorn for this. Must be some really expensive ice.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I mostly care about how much caffeine I get, which I understand to be the same regardless of how much ice there is. Generally, small or medium is 2 shots of espresso, and a large is 3 shots.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Technically you got the coffee you paid for. You got the same amount of coffee as you would have if you got normal ice. It's priced based on the amount of coffee provided not the size of the cup. The cup being not full is more psychological than anything. If we want to get real technical, the price of a coffee is mostly labor and overhead not the ingredients. Thats why a large doesn't cost that much more than a medium.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Premeasured devices have been around for awhile. Fewer user errors and they can use the customer's mug/thermos if they want to.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not just coffee, soda cups have ice lines and a growing number of soda machines have automated / measured filling. And if you go to a theme park your cups are RFID chipped so you can't get refills (or only a certain amount of refills).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What a waste of RFID chips.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Just make it at home its so much better and cheaper.

[–] zarkanian 8 points 2 weeks ago

Gee, I'm sure OP didn't think of that one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

And there's lots of subjectivity with coffee; you can get the tools to dial it in exactly how you like it, or just a machine that makes it really easy, with lots of space in-between.

[–] Lucidlethargy 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What do you mean "in the USA"? You went to a Dunkin Donuts... Lol. That's not a Cafe, that's a place to buy mass produced, shitty donuts.

This was entirely your fault is your were after a great cup of coffee.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Bro in literally every other country they press the button on the espresso machine to decide how much coffee you get

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Okay so I'm going to answer this with soda. So when people order soda no ice, they think they're being smart and getting more soda. Well, define soda.

You see, most of those drinks are specifically designed with the ice in mind. All drinks are some sort of mixture with water, and they take ice into account, they expect the ice to melt and become part of the drink. With soda, they made the drink with the ice melting in mind.

So when you order a soda no ice, you're not getting more soda necessarily, justa. More concentrated sugary syrupy drink that isn't properly mixed.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

most of those drinks are specifically designed with the ice in mind

Citation Needed

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[–] Corkyskog 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But this isn't a fountain drink

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Doesn't mean they didn't plan the drink with ice in mind

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

On the plus side, if this is the worst part of your day, you had a pretty good day

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[–] Bakkoda 4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Sometimes i order a cortado/flat white (it's on the menu, i swear) and get a 16 oz paper cup filled to the top. What am I drinking?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don't get overpaying a shop for coffee. I can get over 43 16 oz cups from a 2 lb bag of whole bean. Not the cheap shit, either. I buy the good stuff from a co-op in Wisconsin. With my minimal time and labor investment, I end up paying about $0.85 for 16 oz.

Why go to a shop? Human interaction?

Edit: Look y'all, do what you want. I'm not your dad. Well, probably.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Do you never leave your house? If I want a warm coffee while I'm out and about, I'm not going all the way home for it

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