My favorite retort to those advocating for running over protesters:
If it's OK for you to run over protesters blocking your path on the highway, it's also OK for me to set fire to your car if you park it in the bike lane.
this post was submitted on 03 Jan 2025
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My ex father in law was badly injured running into a car broken down, parked in a bike lane (there wasn't anywhere else they could have stopped). He was training for a triathlon which he didn't get to participate in, nursing two broken arms
Sometimes even without the help of arseholes your bike lane may be blocked. Look up regularly, people.
there wasn't anywhere else they could have stopped
so there wasn't a road?
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The "logic" goes like this: (sarcasm)
It's ok to burn down the planet for profit. It's ok to destroy the ecosystem on which we all depend for food, clean water. It's ok to make bombs and sell them to those dropping them on hospitals and children. It's ok to pollute the air with deadly particles no one can avoid.
But you just CANNOT... you just CANNOT be in a way of someone carrying a few tons of steel of a metal cage through a city. That's not something that we as a society will accept
Can any lawyers answer this:
If the person driving that vehicle did end up running someone over, and had that sign in the window, would they get an elevated charge?
To me, that sort of thing is like premeditation, and it would be extremely hard for me to believe that an “accident” led to them killing someone with their vehicle.
Not a lawyer, but I think stuff like this is a minefield. The defense would try to get it thrown out as prejudicial and without the suspect testifying all they could do is show a picture to an officer of it who affirms that he saw it on the car and enter it into evidence, but they could only indirectly talk about it in opening and closing because nobody can personally testify about the motivations behind the sticker.
But if the defense was "I panicked and hit the gas when people surrounded me" this is something that would poke quite a few holes in that argument.
It could, its just hard for the prosecution to handle. Because it's not direct evidence of the mindset for that incident and it's inflammatory to the jury the chances of it being ruled as prejudicial and not probative is high. That's why past criminal convictions are also often excluded from trials.
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Not a lawyer but, premeditation isn’t what you think it is; one can premeditate an action in seconds, the concept really just conveys that the individual had time to think of the consequences.
But yeah, a sticker like this would certainly hurt the case of any defendant. It wouldn’t likely get them any modifiers (though it would help), but it could definitely affect a judge’s decision on how much time they should serve.
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Should we tell them their family joined the protest?
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