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Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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Anyone crying about nato and specifically citing the ukrainian azov battalion. Is almost certainly a Russian Z Nazi or supporter of them. It's an easy way to identify them since it's an oddly specific combonation of groups to hate.
And for the record. Azov never would have existed if russia didn't start a war against Ukraine in 2014.. eat me
Imagine you believe Stalin and Winnie are left
I dont have to. I was 12 at one point too.
Lol on the left two genociders, one man who i actually respect(tried to fix all the shit going on in the world, even if i dont think its the right solution, he at least tried) and one guy who i dont even know. And on the right which is aimed at people like me. Im not a democrat and i think theyre shit(tho im european and would probably vote for them because you dont even have a choice in murica), im sceptic of the new syrian leadership(but hopeful), fuck israel and nato is just free military for us but i think we should invest more into it because the us is a horrible ally as we can see in ukraine. Idk bout the rest. So yeah complete bullshit from tankies as usual.
Ask them how the Uyghurs in China are doing.
Their answer from my last interaction:
-western propaganda
-uyghurs themselves love it
-not forced labour but a vocational school the government put these people under
-amnesty and UN is lying and unreliable
-only reliable source is the blogpost they linked
-it's all anti terrorism effort
-western propaganda
NOOOOOOO THATS FAKE NEWS THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN CONFIRMED REPORTS OF ANYTHING SOMETHING SOMETHING THEY'RE ALL HAPPY AND THE ONES WHO DIED ALL DESERVED IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Ummm actually if you look at this CCP-approved news source, they say it's logistically impossible to commit a genocide against that many people without anyone noticing soooo
Their answer is always “something-something western propaganda have you ever seen the camps first-hand you’re swallowing propaganda they’re not real CCP is going to solve global warming with fusion energy”
I got banned from some community or other for laughing at that last part. Not a joke, apparently.
If I was a "leftist" mod of an already very left community and a meme I share with that community is about to reach -70 karma I would abandon my account, request asylum on another instance and call myself the digital Viktor Yanukovych lmao
Is that supposed AOC? Lmfao, I'm pretty sure AOC is anti-israel.
Also, why do they always put the younger portrait of Xi, rather than the most recent one, like most western leaders do? Like just find the Baidu BaiKe (Baidu Wiki) for Xi, and compare it to the Xi on Wikipedia...
Don't want to be reminded of your impending death due to old age, Xi? 🤔
(Like bro, just use a more recent portrait, the younger you looks like an inexperienced idiot)
She's critical enough of Israel to piss off your average zionist, but also don't want to "decolonize" it, which in many tankies' heads equals with the strawman the far-right has about decolonization.
There's a faction of liberals who hate AOC the way 13-year-olds call mom a bitch for making them go to the dentist.
I mean there is a faction of liberals that hate AOC, but the person/people who made the meme definitely aren't liberal.
Same as on reddit.
I lived happily oblivious of the existence of tankies until I randomly said I was voting for a democratic politician in r/latestagecapitalism.
Yeah, the fact that they're all so anti-voting and/or "both sides"-y is why I think the root of most of the tankies' thinking is Chinese propaganda. Like, just because you vote for someone doesn't mean you are 100% aligned with everything they say. Or even 50% of it. Just means you're more aligned with them than the other option. The only people who could possibly benefit from such a stupid mode of thought are part of authoritarian governments.
Yep. I nearly disagree as much with a democrat as a republican.
But pragmatically, I prefer that trans people and disabled people aren’t literally eradicated, and whether 1% or 50% of the population turn out, the election still stands so I’ll be voting.
That doesn’t mean I don’t do other things in a more revolutionary spirit, but I think it’s dumb not to vote.
But pragmatically, I prefer that trans people and disabled people aren’t literally eradicated
OH, so you think that trans and disabled folk should be SPECIAL and EXCLUDED from genocide while other people are being genocided elsewhere??? Typical shitlib
/s
I wouldn't even say it's propaganda. It's bad-faith. They find whatever reasons they can to not participate in the hopes that the system will get worse, and this will swing a magic political pendulum to the opposite side of socialist utopia.
The missing part is that magic political pendulum = "People suffer more and more until it boils over in a violent revolution with much death on all sides and The Party™ installs themselves as leaders of everything, which then will 'dissolve itself' 'one day' 'when they're no longer necessary.'"
Which might be even less likely to happen than if it was magic, tbf.
From the title of that post, I'm getting hella "the right can't meme" vibes (but it's also just fucked up grammatically so maybe that's throwing me off). But at the same time I'm getting tankie vibes from the "what you hope for" side of the meme...
During that era everyone was homophobic. Though the self proclaimed allies of today are a larger threat to our existence than those that openly hate us.
I feel dumb. What’s below Israel’s flag?
One of multiple flags representing terrorism
Tankie, definitely.
Tankies love them some genocide daddies, they never fail to simp for daddy Stalin
Idk when I say im left wing I mean this:
Yep. I blocked it. Had my post deleted when rather politely calling out a dumbass trying to assert someone who dared to criticize the religion of leninism. By claiming that they hadn't read enough theory. I simply stated that both Leninism and capitalism are both failed theories.
Bam deletion. Rule 3 attacking socialism. I asked them how I was attacking socialism. Pointing out that I'm left libertarian / anarchist. Very pro socialism. Which they then laughably changed to communist misinformation. Which I then pointed out that that wasn't Rule 3. And it wasn't misinformation.
I only petitioned the deletion though because I knew they could not be neutral or mature. And they did not fail to meet expectations. It's a total Echo chamber.
When you ask the People's Front of Judea who they hate worse, the Romans or the Judean People's Front.
