this post was submitted on 31 Dec 2024
850 points (98.9% liked)

politics

19292 readers
2015 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Dr. Oz is a charlatan who's allowed to exist because the vitamin and supplement industry lobbied against FDA oversight and won.

He's the literal product of corruption.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

And Snakeoil

[–] [email protected] 168 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Even the people who pay for insurance don't have rights either.

load more comments (22 replies)
[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 week ago (49 children)

If everyone just said fuck it and stopped paying their insurance, it would crash not just those companies, but domino into taking out the entire stock market.

Like, these companies are worth so much, and they invest in others and people invest in them. If their entire revenue stream is stopped at once that's it.

Which makes it kind of a nuclear option, one I've intentionally not mentioned and haven't seen anyone else either.

But the day may be coming

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Corporations mainly pay for health insurance. Imagine employee's reactions being told they were getting cut off. Not going to happen.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (48 replies)
[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Just wish the US would get a universal healthcare system like every freaking other developed country in this world. Will never happen. Ugh.

[–] Kecessa 51 points 1 week ago (20 children)

Nah, the Republicans would rather see you spend twice as much per capita (the whole population!) to cover a third of the population via public insurance and then get you guys to then spend money on private insurance and then have to pay any time you need any care.

You know... Fiscal responsibility...

load more comments (20 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Single payer healthcare is so complex to implement that only 22 of the 23 most developed countries in the world have done it.

The US system is grotesque.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

While I agree with the sentiment (where this should be the case), this isn't actually true for some of these countries.

Australia, for example, though not sure if we're included in this 23, we have a private system also.

For all emergency care, it's single-payer. Private health insurance / private hospitals are not permitted to provide emergency care, nor out of hospital car, but all other hospital care is allowed (I am simplifying, as I'm not super clear on it either). Further, private health insurance is not allowed to cover things that Medicare doesn't at least also partially cover.

Sounds good right? Sounds like private health is kept in check? I mean, sort of, but it's still really profitable, and you even get a tax break.

What it doesn't stop, is prices getting higher and you having to cover the difference because health care employees are not necessarily employed by the stat, and can set their own prices (which is either covered by private insurance in hospital, or out-of-pocket outside hospital as private can't cover that).

If you don't have private health, you often have to wait way longer in the public system for non-emergency (but still medically necessary) care, like hip replacements, eye surgery etc.

It's kinda fucked, everyone ought to be in the same queue, and if things are taking too long well then gee, I dunno, pay more / hire more / train more doctors, this doesn't take a genius to figure out.

Healthcare should be provided by the state, in-full, covered by taxes. We (and the US for that matter) have plenty of tax revenue to cover this. And if you're feeling really frisky, perhaps very slightly increase corporate taxes and tax breaks for the wealthy.

So we now have a two tiered system, where the wealthy get care first, or whoever can afford to pay. And you even get a tax break for it.

The US system is trash, and ours is utopian by comparison, but let's not pretend like all 22 of 23 countries have true, universal healthcare.

We don't, let's aim higher haha

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

The US system is state sanctioned terrorism of the civilian population by the plutocracy, for profit.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

They do in other modern countries. Oh wait, except they don't have "uninsured" people. If your government can't guarantee you basic things like clean air and water, protection, health... what the fuck are you paying taxes for!?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

what the fuck are you paying taxes for!?

dead brown kids!

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago

Ha ha ha. Pop pop pop.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When the denying starts, the deposing starts.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"Those who make peaceful reform impossible make violent revolution inevitable."

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He really has talent in choosing all his picks. "Ummm who could be the worst person ever to fill this role?"

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Every one of those terrible picks has been a deliberate, careful choice to destabilize the country.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Just think: you all did the right thing, holding your nose at the polls, voting for Fetterman to block Oz. And now you have both of them.

load more comments (8 replies)
[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Isn't life already pay to play enough? How much blood can you get from a stone?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're going to keep squeezing to find out.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

Delay, deny, depose

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Under your plan, UnitedHealth’s revenue from Medicare Advantage would roughly double to $274 billion annually,” the Democrats wrote.

That's the point.

I'd like to see another outcome, like the government withdrawing their contracts due to fraud, but regulatory capture is strong here.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago

what he really meant is that non millionaires dont deserve world class health care

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

America Last. WTF, the Government of Putin wants an epidemic to break out. How many people in the red run welfare counties would be affected by Dr. Oz's plan? Indeed, a shit ton and they voted for it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I'll make it much simpler to understand. The only thing putin wants. Is America out of the way. Whatever form that takes. So that he can pursue his plans in Eurasia.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oz went on to explain that most people have misread the Constitution and Bill of rights, people can have life OR liberty OR the pursuit of happiness. Only the rich will get all three...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

It's an interesting perspective on a phrase that literally says "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Funny because you can only pursue liberty or pursue happiness when dead. Almost like the afterlife, religion is an instrument of class oppression

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›