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Republicans quietly cut IRS funding by $20 billion in bill to avert government shutdown (www.salon.com)

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[–] [email protected] 205 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

A 2021 report from the Congressional Budget Office indicated that the $80 billion in added IRS funding over 10 years would yield approximately $200 billion in added tax revenue without raising taxes. The Biden administration this week said $140 billion would be added to the debt over a decade due to the cuts, per the Washington Post.

Anyone who says republicans are good at the budget and national debt should be laughed out of the room.

They are the worst of people and I pray that saint luigi will visit them.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The IRS started using their bigger budget to go after the wealthy and fight their lawyers instead of just nickel and diming the classes that can’t afford to fight back, can’t have that

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It’s a classic CEO move though: cut the workforce and expect the numbers to go up.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's not why they did it though.

The extra funds that were recently given to the IRS that had Republicans screaming they're coming for you Johnny America! were ment to give the IRS the means to actually go after the wealthy who have methods of evading taxes so complex that typically the IRS can't afford to spend the time chasing so they just focus on us poors.

Republicans obviously cant have the ownership class actually pay taxes like the rest of us or they wouldn't be Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

My analogy was rather cryptic. What I meant was that they were doing cuts on the very mechanism that generates revenue, just like a CEO doing a mass layoff.

[–] [email protected] 161 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

No points for guessing who benefits most from a reduced IRS budget ..

[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Is it illegal immigrants on welfare?

[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well I know of at least one illegal immigrant who's getting billions in government subsidies.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Out of utter curiosity, how does someone who has overstayed their visa become a citizen? I thought overstaying a visa automatically throws up red flags

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

perjury. lying on immigration paperwork. an act that could and should get his naturalized status stripped, him kicked-out, and then banned from re-entry.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is my new favorite bedtime story. Thank you

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

You pay for citizenship. Money.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

It's illegal immigrant billionaires. Partly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Depends on who you ask ..

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So you are not saying it isn't illegal immigrants on welfare?

Well I think we can all agree that illegal immigrants on welfare are at fault here. Close the boarders and end H1B visas, case closed and America is great again.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Damn bro, you're riding that line where it isn't clear whether you're serious or joking at least until the second comment. Enjoy the rush!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Now......you keep saying that word. "Again". I can't figure out where you are deciding the point in hiatory it was EVER great.

It's a nation founded by racist slave holders, who were historically drunk at their founding meetings, and only exist at all because the french are some stubborn and vengeful people.

And from there, they've spent more time AT war than not. Taking about 145 years to even give women the right to vote at all.

Then from there, it was almost IMMEDIATELY followed up by the great depression, caused by the wealthy trying to impose their lifestyles to be paid for by everybody else. A practice that 100 years later is still happening.

Then after the great depression, there was WWII.

After that it was the Korean war, then Vietnam. Then the whole recession in the 80s, mixed with nuclear fears.

Then the 90s happened......you had two different woodstocks in the 90s. Make up your mind, America! Plus we had to endure Jay Leno with his CONSTANT Bill Clinton sex jokes. I mean, all late night hosts made a joke or two when a new development happened, but Lenos material was like 80% Clintons penis. And he was the ONLY one still doing it in 2003!

Then 9/11 happened, and the post 9/11 years weren't great. Those were the years that my then whore of an ex cheated on me with 22 guys in the span of 4 years before I found out. So naturally that means the entire country was doing bad.

Then we had the Obama years. Kinda boring really. The problem is everybody thought "OH SHIT! FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT!!! IT'S GONNA BE SOME CHANGES!!!!" He even campaigned in 2008 on the idea of hope and change.

And then what happened? Nothing of interest.

So I don't know when America was EVER great.

Can someone define that?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Sure as shit hasn't been great for people of color.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The dumb part is ..... the US has to somehow finance a big giant monster of a military .... if billionaires and millionaires stop paying taxes where the hell will the money come from? Taxing the poor and middle class more won't even pay for all their expenses.

The wealthy want it all and think they can get poor people who have no money to pick up the slack.

I'm no economist but it's pretty plain to see that none of this makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's generally how the big powers from the past died: they get hollowed out from the inside by the elite our of greed. Then there is one or more external shock (pandemics, climate, war, disasters, resource depletion or agriculture problems are a few classics) that it can't handle anymore and things collapse. It looks things are following that well-worn path. China is even counting on this and aims to be the next big power.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yup, when you slowly hollow out the pyramid until there’s nothing supporting the top, the pyramid collapses

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Governments that can print their own money don't actually get money from taxes; taxes are how excess money is taken out of circulation. The budget actually gets balanced by inflation and everyone's money being worth less. It's a flat tax on people with cash.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Cutting money to the only government agency that can actually turn a decent profit, in order to save money. How very republican.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

USPS ~~turns~~ might turn a profit now that the ridiculous rules that republicans put in to try to bankrupt it have been revoked.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

To avoid the debt getting too large, let's stop funding the agency that brings in the most income.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s because the rich are being taxed. They have to do something about it

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s because the rich are being ~~taxed~~ audited. They have to do something about it

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Anyone who makes $100,000 (gross) in wages, or less should not have to pay Federal taxes. Wealthy corporations, citizens, and all churches should be paying their fair share of all taxes.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Churches should get tax deduction for money spent on real charity, however they should pay taxes on money received and spent on everything else - looking at those mansion homes, expensive cars and private jets.

[–] prole 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Churches should get tax deduction for money spent on real charity

As long as this shit is actually audited, because they 1000% will cheat on this.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

"But anti women's choice billboards IS charity!"

Ugh, fuck these shitters.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Tax churches and suddenly charity might not be required after all....

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So, Republicans are no-so-quietly saying that everyone should cheat on their taxes, or is this just for the rich?

[–] prole 56 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Always just for the rich. When they reduce IRS funding, they audit low hanging fruit because it's much cheaper

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s funny because the IRS was instrumental in a 300 pervert roundup by tracking Bitcoin transactions, some of them government workers. I wonder why they’d want to cut that.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

lol if you think Republicans want to protect government workers

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They just want to protect perverts

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Also their financial advisors and investors have found a much easier way to hide money through crypto, so they can’t have the IRS being “inefficient” by going after unpaid taxes of the wealthy

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The party super concerned about the debt is also the one who wants to defund their only source of income. Brilliant.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They feign concern about the national debt. For my entire lifetime they’ve done nothing but run up the debt.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago

But don't worry. They'll still have enough resources to go after ordinary people.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

As if by design...

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

Couldn't have been accomplished without democrats

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Realize the new tactic, trump admin will have the group of secondary goons fighting in public over multiple concepts, they'll wait to see where public sentiment falls (or more likely how the money feels), and then trump will jump on the bandwagon and "punish" the face of the "losing" side as if he was for the "winning" side all along.

In the meantime, heritage foundation directed gop will use every second of the distraction to quietly pass bad law.

Examples:

they just quietly defunded the department that tracks and reports on foreign propaganda efforts after musk just attacked it publicly link
And they just gutted $20b from the IRS that could be used to audit millionaires and billionaires - the IRS famously brings in more money for every dollar funded into the service link

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Not Republicans. Congress did. The bill only passed because of a bipartisan vote.

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