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Mine is that at my age (barely made it into Gen Z on the old end) I just found out today that a Bo Weevil is an insect (beetle) and not some kind of mole or similar rodent.

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[–] TheFlopster@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's, uh, boll. Boll weevil. So you learned two things!

While we're on animals, every time I hear the word mongoose I picture some kind of platypus-like creature. Like, a half goose, half weasel or something. And that's not what it is at all.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Like, a half goose, half weasel

[–] Brekky@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Wow, I thought the same and looking at their pictures they are not at all what I imagined!

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I thought rabbits and hares were the same species but just gendered like cow and bull

[–] nick@midwest.social 12 points 1 week ago

I’ll be damned.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They're different species?!

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yep. Like how a lion is related to a tiger but they aren’t the same.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Like how an Amstaff and a minpin are different but still dogs?

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One is cute and fluffy, one has seen into the void and hates reality.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Love this one and the comments. I can tell them apart at a glance.

God said, "Where you want these extra 2 inches? Top or bottom?"

EDIT: That last was on the wrong comment. I'm rolling with it.

[–] maxalmonte14@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I thought everyone had an internal monologue, now I'm seeing that's not the case, I'm still processing it.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Speaking of brains, my girlfriend claims that when she imagines something in her head, she sees a detailed image in front of her, as real as real life. Meanwhile thoughts in my head are just concepts and words. I mean I can imagine what something looks like, but it's an abstract of the basic concept of the thing, not a detailed image in my mind. It takes a strong psychedelic for me to be able to picture something in my head with detail, but according to her apparently I'm the weird one.

[–] Waterdoc@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia

My partner has Aphantasia. Brains are strange! She cannot visualize in her mind which makes it very challenging to do certain tasks and many things she does are based on muscle memory. Also interestingly when a song gets stuck in her head it is like she is making all of the sounds with her inner voice. For me, I can hear the song like there is a recording playing in my head.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think I have that because I recall music the same way. Usually it's just the chorus or a verse playing on loop, though, and the actual song never sounds exactly how I remember it.

[–] Waterdoc@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

There are varying levels of Aphantasia, for my partner it is complete but for you if may only be partial. The wiki page I linked discussed it a bit.

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[–] clay_pidgin 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can't tell if I do or not.

If you can't tell, then you don't have one.

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You mean like imagining a voice speak out your thoughts? Thoughts are so much faster than speech, I feel like having to speak out all your thoughts would slow things down significantly.

The best tip I learned about reading faster is to stop narrating the words in your head, which puts a hard limit on your reading speed.

[–] Steak@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Bro I can't read if I don't read it in my head lmao

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 16 points 1 week ago

So.. which one is the lesser of two weevils?

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The way we use our brain. I thought that everybody's brain was used similarly to hire I use mine. But I'm fact everybody did it differently.

For instance, some people use more of their visual cortex to do maths, and assign colors to different numbers. For some maths takes place more in the language part, or timekeeping part.

Richard Feynman did some experimenting with this: https://youtu.be/lr8sVailoLw ( from 2.08)

But it makes sense, in school nobody tells you how to use your brain, they just give assignments and look at the outcome, also you don't really control how your brain works, you can train it to do some things more efficient, but you can't learn to do maths in your visual cortex.

[–] Lokoschade@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I recently saw a video of a girl being able to spell words backwards really fast and the way it was described is that she just saw the text of the word in her mind and just read the letters backwards. That is so fascinating to me because that is just so so far from how my brain works, I don't see shit.

[–] otp 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That sounds like aphantasia.

Until maybe 10 years ago, I thought that was some exceptionally rare condition, and that I'd be instantly able to tell who had that by how they acted because that person would be so weird or different than everyone else.

Turns out lots of people have it, including my mother.

It was so weird to me, because I have an inner monologue and it's pretty much always going. And I can "hear" it inside my mind. I can visualize anything I can think about, even watch "movies" with a "soundtrack" in my own mind. It's so omnipresent in my life, and that's just not how everyone's brain can work.

And of course, people who don't have that in their mind are no less intelligent or anything. Maybe it's easier for them to focus than it is for me! Lol

But when I first heard about it, I wondered things like, "How can they read?" or "How can they know what something looks like from a description, or how can they understand how something would be moved in a 3D space without actually moving it?" Lol

[–] Lokoschade@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I do have an inner monologue and when I try to visualise something the closest thing I can get is my inner monologue describing the features of the thing I'm trying to see. But no picture appears. It's like my brain only saves the concepts of things, like an apple is round, red, has a little brown stem etc.

[–] otp 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, there are two kinds (probably with different names). Aphantasia is where there's no "mental video/images". I think there's a different name for "no internal monologue" and/or "no mental sound".

A person can have one or the other, or both, or neither

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[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

"Cake" in "let them eat cake" is "brioche". I had thought that cake meant cheap chemically leavened bread-ish, but it actually was an out of touch elite being genuinely confused about bread shortages, not someone callously suggesting the peasants eat shittier food.

Also it probably wasn't Marie Antoinette.

[–] otp 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

For almost my entire life, I'd been using the word "Apparently" to mean "Allegedly" or "I'd heard/read, but haven't verified".

It actually means "Evidently" or "As can be plainly observed". So pretty much the opposite connotation.

I've been trying to get myself out of that habit, but even judging from my comment history, it's apparently pretty hard.

(I did it right that time!)

I think the problem was that I'd thought it was being used ironically.

[–] ylph@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I am not sure you were as wrong as you think - see definitions 2 and 3 here

Usage of words shifts and sometimes expands over time.

More references here or here

I would personally definitely interpret "apparently" and "plainly" differently - "apparently" to me is "the evidence so far does seem to point this way, but I am not necessarily convinced, or have strong feelings either way" vs "plainly" is "the evidence is clear, I am convinced, and so should you be" - although obviously context would matter as well and could alter this interpretation.

Edit: even your example usage "I've been trying to get myself out of that habit, but even judging from my comment history, it's apparently pretty hard" - to me the usage of "apparently" here indicates similar tension and/or contradiction, in this case between belief/intent (I am trying to stop the habit) and evidence (but my comment history shows otherwise) - it wouldn't work quite as well with "plainly"

It would work with "evidently" but carry more of a connotation of confirmation and shift the emphasis (I am trying to, but it's hard as confirmed by evidence) rather than contradiction (I would like to think I am doing it, but evidence shows otherwise) - of course you might have meant it either way (or even neither) - I am just saying how it reads to me.

[–] otp 3 points 1 week ago

I can understand why it might bother some people, since it's kind of like "literally", where the "new" definition is the opposite of the "traditional" definition, and we already have perfectly good words to fill in for the new definition.

I also dislike how "apparent" means "clear" or "obvious", but I'd been using "apparentLY" to mean "allegedly".

But thank you for the affirmation that I was using it in "one" proper way!

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've always understood it as "This is apparent to people who are familiar with the issue, but since I am not, I have to take their word for it. If I looked into the issue, I'm reasonably certain I would come to the same conclusion."

Apparently that's not how other people parse it, though.

[–] Mesa@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago

This is the way.

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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Value-types in C# can apparently contain reference-type members. I had always thought that they could only contain other value-types. I've been using C# since before its official release. It still hurts my head trying to wrap my brain around it.

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago

It's library - not libary

[–] EtnaAtsume@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Commercials are saying お試しみしてください and not お楽しみしてください.

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Please try it or please enjoy it?

[–] EtnaAtsume@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's a direct translation; better English equivalents would be "give it a try" vs. "look forward to it". They are pronounced similarly (tameshimi/tanoshimi) and either makes sense in context (usually heard at the end of an ad), so "Please look forward to/get excited about X" and "please give X a try" both would make sense.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

Nice try, Kao. Even if everything it seems is brought to us by you, I'm not going out to buy your goods

[–] Volkditty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Boston is further north than NYC.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought jealousy and envy were synonymous.

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i learnt a while back that they're not the same, but i can't even remember the difference

[–] invalidname@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Envy is wanting something someone else has. Jealousy is fearing someone will take away something you have. Or I’m about to learn that what I’ve recently learnt is not true and then this would be my answer for this post.

[–] BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is correct! Majority of the time when someone says they're jealous of something they absolutely mean envious. E.g. "You're going for a holiday next week? I'm so jealous." Nope. Envious.

[–] ylph@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Majority of the time when someone says they're jealous of something they absolutely mean envious.

Isn't this how language works ? If majority of the time people use the word in certain way, than that becomes one of its accepted meanings. In fact dictionaries list one of the meanings of "jealous" to be "envious" (with citations of this usage going back to 14th century, including works by Oscar Wilde and Mark Twain that are over 100 years old)

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

While obviously you're correct, this is not necessarily a good thing. The jealousy-envy collapse is clearly an impoverishment of language. These are two different concepts and it's useful to have words for concepts.

FWIW: the doctrine that "whatever people say is by definition correct and wise" is actually a pretty Anglocentric and modern thing. Linguists didn't always think this, and you won't get people saying this for French, for example.

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[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Jealousy is Smeagle with the ring.

Envy is Smeagle when someone else has the ring.

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