I signed the pledge to not ever federate with them, and unlike the DARE pledges they made us sign in school, I'm taking this one seriously.
this post was submitted on 04 Dec 2024
69 points (87.1% liked)
Fediverse
28787 readers
302 users here now
A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).
If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to [email protected]!
Rules
- Posts must be on topic.
- Be respectful of others.
- Cite the sources used for graphs and other statistics.
- Follow the general Lemmy.world rules.
Learn more at these websites: Join The Fediverse Wiki, Fediverse.info, Wikipedia Page, The Federation Info (Stats), FediDB (Stats), Sub Rehab (Reddit Migration), Search Lemmy
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
DARE to do drugs
DARE to keep threads defed'd
Do All Recreational Enhancers!
Dope Amphetamines Roofies Extacy
I'm 3/4ths the way there.
The advantage of the Fediverse is exactly that, that each instance can decide if they federate or not. The thing that I'm wary of is a renewal of Embrace, extend, and extinguish. I'd like to think that Zuckerberg isn't going to try playing dirty tricks, but we'll see what happens if and when Threads ever becomes really successful.
EEE would require existing Mastodon users moving to threads which I can't see happening
EEE would require existing Mastodon users moving to threads
It would not.
Meta could implement ActivityPub in Facebook, and there's your majority population. Imagine a Facebook user "friending" your mastodon account. You follow them back because it's your mom, and so does basically everyone. Next, Facebook implements Pages to round off the concept of "communities." Then, Facebook introduces a genuinely useful extension - marketplace. Once a decent clip of people set up shop, trim off any instances that don't adopt the FriendlyPub fork.
Bam, EEE.
Once a decent clip of people set up shop, trim off any instances that don't adopt the FriendlyPub fork.
And you'll be back at square one, as if Facebook hadn't federated in the first place. Which is essentially how the Fediverse is right now.
There's a lot of shitty things they can do. They could push for changes to ActivityPub that nobody sane wants, confusing everybody that says "We support ActivityPub", and spread FUD about anyone that doesn't move to their new shitty version. Similar to how Google pushes through changes to web standards that benefit them, forcing Firefox to implement them too.
Then it's up to Mastodon not to bow to the changes. The worst thing that can happen is that we lose federation with Threads again.
If you and others don't like Threads to begin with then why would the "extinguish" part ever work? The people who are already here aren't going to stop just because Threads federates and then later on unfederates.
I won't use threads, but the Fediverse is relatively small. It would suck if they managed to play dirty tricks and steal a large fraction of current fediverse users.
Threads uses can now "follow" fediverse accounts but "only if they’ve interacted with a post on Threads" and the posts "wont appear in your feeds."
Well played, Zuck. Hilarious.
lol 😂
but yeah, it IS coming.
You think this is the last step?
Perhaps there will be an infinite number of steps, each of them getting smaller and smaller as the result asymptotically approaches whatever barely-functional sham version of federation is deemed most profitable for Meta Platforms Inc.
No thank you.
I don't see how anything has changed. I don't use threads, but this URL doesn't work:
https://www.threads.net/@[email protected]
And the post from the article just shows his account as plain text:
Because their link is different, it's https://www.threads.net/fediverse_profile/[email protected]
Interesting. Can't tell if that worked because it wants me to log in. Wonder why they don't just allow appending the instance at the end like the rest of the fediverse does. Does that post show the username as plain text for you as well? It's still showing that way for me.
It's clickable for me, however on some accounts mentions render as plain text, idk why, is this one clickable for you?
Nope, those are all not clickable. Probably requires logging in or something. Does not inspire confidence in them being a long-term team player, but we'll see what happens I guess 🤷
Here's a mastodon account, seen through Threads: https://www.threads.net/fediverse_profile/[email protected]
Thanks
True, you're right, we'll see, they still say that the "Fediverse sharing" is in beta so things can change
Instagram has long maintained a login wall, so I'm not surprised to see one on Threads. That means they hate the open web, not necessarily federation.
I do assume bad faith when it comes to Meta, and I suspect their middling, slow implementation of ActivityPub here is mostly intended to discourage antitrust actions against them.
BlueSky seems like an obviously better fit. The more corporate interests are protected on and by Lemmy the less interesting it is...
...and plaves like c/News are already there to mostly protect and defend corporate interests.
What do you mean by 'amd'? I've heard it s couple times but searching just gives the [email protected] sub and a few misc posts about AMD on lemmy
Part of why Lemmy can federate and why they're so innovative is because they're not stored in a traditional server space, instead, theyre run on old Bitcoin graphics cards . Some of which AMD 600 - 1000 series, are supposedly easier to network and run in parallel, so when I talk about AMD Lemmy, I mean using thise parts of Lemmy as a bridge, or network gateway to Threads.
oh I see. Thank you!
hey look, threads can do something Lemmy can't! shame it's the only good thing they can do
A lot of effort to be blocked by most everyone from the fediverse. I don't want the ads or to be tracked. I also don't need dumb ass lib takes that come from contributions to capitalist social media. I'll get the best ones from screenshots here or mastodon tvm.
The slow drip of fediverse features has been frustrating, but it feels like there's finally light at the end of the tunnel. It's been absolutely amazing even having the level of interop we have between Mastodon <-> Threads, and it's about to get so much better. I feel like a whole lot of people out there who think they're getting what they need out of Bluesky (news, memes, friends, whatever) would get much the same experience if they were just using the fediverse as ActivityPub intended (aka sign up for a variety of services and wire 'em up!).
Remember: it takes two to tango. Threads might want to federate, but a lot of Fediverse instances want nothing to do with Facebook.