"Physical games" that dont run until patched with 5 day one patches because the game needed to be shipped with something.
Or you get a code lol
this post was submitted on 01 Dec 2024
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back in the 360/Wii days you could often download and install updates from a disc or USB stick since they still had to be digitally signed anyway.
Not an ideal solution but still no reason why we couldn't still do that to have offline copies of updates for preservation
Rip the base game + patches in a zip rather than the bare CD for preservation...
Right now the CDs are basically plastic waste inside more waste, sealed inside more waste.
The problem with that approach is that the authentic disc is effectively used as your licence at the moment. There wouldn't be any effective way to stop piracy with offline zip files
What even are physical games in this day and age? Sure, you can buy a disk but if you still need to download a zero day patch that takes approximately a buttload of time to finish before you can actually start playing, then it isn't a physical game. Don't even get me started on Nintendo's links in a box. Perhaps we should start calling them physical DRM.
weren't there a few titles where the disc was effectively nothing and the whole game just downloads anyway?
Call of Duty was one of them. Disc contained less than 100mb of data. You still had to download the entire game. If you bought it to only play a campaign offline, too bad.
Yeah seriously, physical media has been dead for awhile now. Last time I bought a physical game was 2008 (The Orange Box).
I understand why people are upset, but it's time to move on. If the server that is hosting the zero day patches shuts down, then your physical copy is as useful as a brick anyway.
I'm sure not many people care about physical vs digital per se. It's the arbitrary locks by servers, digital storefront, DRM etc. So that when you pay your money you have no idea what you are getting and what your rights are. Physical game media was a simpler time from that perspective (play in perpetuity, don't redistribute, cool cool that seems like a fair trade) and resulted in better pricing and experience for consumers.
I'd accept "move on" if the argument was just "muh pretty box" (god knows there are plenty of ways to buy pretty boxes of vidya IP) but consumer rights are surely worth fighting for, or we get needlessly bled for ever more dollars.
Yeah, the fact that everyone's fighting for physical media instead of DRM-free makes me skeptical that the argument is anything more than muh pretty box
Couldn't find a good primary source to dig into it. But from Ipsos:
"I believe the preference for physical discs amongst next gen gamers reflects the potential value they derive from the pre-owned market," commented Ipsos director Ian Bramley to MCV, "which is holding up the preference for physical - this is unlike the music and film markets."
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/64-percent-prefer-physical-media-to-digital-distribution
I'm sure there's a lot of generational and market segment differences. I never really understood "collecting" games. But I guess people do that in digital too with their huge steam sale backlogs!
I don't have an Xbox, but on my Switch I can play the game without updating the game. I may not be able to utilize any online features, but if that server is gone I wouldn't be using them anyway.
Nintendo is a major exception to everything. This is about PC, XBOX and Playstation.
They will definitely be forgotten sadly.
Zero way they haven't already been forgotten. Microsoft wants everything online all the time now
A digital only storefront will be the end of gaming. We already saw it with the Vita.
People go to a store to buy the hardware:
"Wait, why aren't there any games?"
I won't spend top dollar on digital games. I'm giving up a lot, so I demand lower prices.
I'm curious what the split is on new games though. I know there's a 90% digital metric that gets thrown around. But I think that's a lot of cheaper games and sales. I want to know what the split is on full priced games.
That's a good point. I haven't bought a physical game for a few years now and I'm certainly not buying anything digital close to full price. The majority is probably under £10.
This would make sense if Steam didn't exist and is arguably the most consumer friendly of the storefronts
And if people weren't increasingly choosing to not shop in brick & mortar stores anyway. The big high street game retailer in my country has mostly transitioned to being a nerd-culture merch shop rather than somewhere that actually stocks any games other than the Sims, CoD or EAFC.
Steam deck is digital only and is selling like hot cakes.
Steamdecks aren't dependent on physical stores to sell hardware.
That was true last generation of consoles but nowadays I suspect it is very different.
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