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Summary

Fox News host Julie Banderas warned that President-elect Donald Trump’s proposed tariffs—25% on products from Mexico and Canada and 10% on those from China—could significantly raise costs for Americans, as many businesses rely on foreign goods.

While some companies are shifting to U.S.-based suppliers or stockpiling goods ahead of the tariffs, Banderas noted that buying American often results in higher prices.

She highlighted that the financial burden would likely fall on consumers, questioning, “Who’s going to pay for that? We are.”

Economists have also warned of inflation risks.

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[–] [email protected] 157 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

My sister's fiance thought just because an iPhone (for instance) was designed in the states that it wouldn't be subject to tariffs, despite being made in China and using foreign parts.

[–] [email protected] 161 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lack of education is the best way to control people.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Also messianic prophecies, but agree education is number 1

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago

In the end there will be all sorts of carveouts for whatever company kisses Trump's ass the most. Apple products will be on that list almost assuredly.

This is a bad thing because it'll be yet another thing for people to point to and say "See! The tarrifs aren't so bad."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

To be fair, an iPhone could be manufactured entirely in the US it would just cost 4x as much. Maybe 10x, actually.

CPU manufacturing would be the hardest to bring online. The second most difficult one would be screens (though we may not have tariffs with South Korea 🤷).

In the US there's already plenty of PCB manufacturing, CNC machining (case), ultra hard glass (screen) manufacturing, and it's relatively easy to ramp up capacitor and resistor manufacturing. Things like USB C connectors would need some company to step up though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Only TSMC can produce the SoC which is a huge problem. An US produced iPhone would be something quite different no matter the price.

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[–] [email protected] 150 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

How can a financially broken, over stressed, oppressed public fight? This is by design, to further oppress, divide and conquer. But I’ll wait over here with the other couple million people that have been screaming this for months till the shit hits the fan and we can actually start working toward a common greater good.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

BuT tHe StOcK mArKeT iS uP!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

THINK OF THE POOR SHAREHOLDERS YOU UNGRATEFUL MONSTER. /s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm always thinking of them.

[–] anomnom 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It was fine until the 80s converted all the pensions into “mutual” funds. Now all our retirements are tied to the fucking stock market. We’re gonna need a general strick and the billionaires reckoning to fix this shit.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

And it won't be once sales drop precipitously across entire industries. Lots of manufacturing simply doesn't exist in the US anymore, and there isn't enough time to start it up before massive economic impacts.

The effects of this Trump administration will be clear and they will be bad. I'm somewhat optimistic that they will eventually start to generate a kind of unity we haven't seen in the US in a long time. But, to be clear, it will be a very, very, very rough few years to get there, and it assumes the world isn't consumed by massive wars anyway.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

What's gonna happen is that prices will go up, and companies in the US will gouge even harder on top of that because they have an external excuse to. Maybe things will get so bad that Democrats are able to win in the next election, but after the Biden administration, it's not like they have any credibility when it comes to standing up to price gouging in any meaningful way.

Democrats will need a candidate who isn't some preordained corpodem like the last 3 cycles. Because if they do that again, they will be running as second worst yet the fuck again, and any noises they make about wanting prices to come down or wages to go up will be just that. Noise.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Most Americans do not follow the markets and are clueless to their existance. You are giving them too much credit.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Now might be a good time to get into the torch and pitchfork business

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

till the shit

Weird hobby.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

Till, until, and 'til are all valid and equivalent with till actually being the oldest word of the bunch. I found this out the hard way when I made fun of a school poster for using what I thought was the wrong till

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

It ain't gonna till itself.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think that's the thing. The system will fail if all these policies are put in place. But at this point, it sounds like a lot of voters need an example of what such a failure looks like.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That’s kind of my point. They don’t want to believe the truth, they will just have to experience reality. It’s like a kid and a stove, sometimes they will only learn if you let them touch it.

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump is simply proving that he is a Russian asset. He's taxing American allies more than their rivals.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The 10% on China is in addition to the 25% of Can/Mex, so 35% for China.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Here's the thing. Even if the terrifs, somehow, didn't directly cause inflation, the fact that we are taking about inflation means that companies can raise prices and gouge just like last time.

[–] explodicle 25 points 2 weeks ago (26 children)

Man, I sure am worried about deflation.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The "Buy American" companies will raise their product prices to match the foreign companies hit by tariffs. Governments and corporations NEVER pay tariffs. They pass on the tariffs to consumers in the form of higher prices.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

And those price increases won't translate to paid workers since unlike the Democrats, he doesn't plan to properly raise minimum wage. So underpaid workers will still be underpaid, but will be hit with inflation

It will all go to share holders or management

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 weeks ago

Wild that we talk about Fox News like we’re breaking into a different world. Even wilder that this person is being honest with their viewers.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is the first time they are hearing of this and easily half of them have now "cancelled" fox for being woke.

[–] SreudianFlip 6 points 2 weeks ago

Well, they wanted to stay "sleep", and got it.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago

This is the honest conversation that Fox News should have with its viewers before the election. It's moot at this point.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Network that spends all of its time pretending that claims that Donald will immediately reach favorable and equitable peace agreements in two international wars, get the price of eggs to go down, secure the southern border, deport all the criminals, and fix healthcare with "concepts of a plan" are totally reasonable: "Let's be realistic". 🤡

😆

You guys skewed reality so far that it has broken entirely for your viewers. How do you expect them to be realistic now?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

LOL, why would Faux start being realistic now?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It could hurt the Sacred Moneyline.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

It’s going to be fucking hilarious when these shitcunts get wrecked.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

The shit is already piling up in front of the fan, which will remain off until Jan 2025.

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