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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

He makes Rogozin look competent

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

it won't be though. spacex tech is massively reliant on NASA. if they do it they'll hurt spacex in the long run. which means they'll probably do it because musk is a fucking moron.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 50 minutes ago (1 children)

Surely he'll strip NASA, put the bits he wants up for sale, then buy them for cheap.

Sure the best staff might leave, but he'll probably keep enough of the organisation to get something out of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 minutes ago

he's gonna have to find more indentured slaves

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

"... in the long run"

These aren't people who understand what "in the long run" means.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

This quarters profits must be higher than last quarters. Fuck anything beyond that

[–] anindefinitearticle 45 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

We saw what happened the last time space infrastructure was privatized.

Boeing gave all the money to the stockholders and delivered a criminally late product that ended up failing and stranding our astronauts. Boeing obviously didn't care to test if the Teflon in those thrusters could survive repeated heatings.

SpaceX decided to go backwards in rocket technology, from Hydrogen to Methane. Hydrogen is more efficient, and makes it easier to bury carbon responsibly. Sure, Boeing's rockets got made fun of for being leaky, but I think that might be Boeing more than Hydrogen at fault. Dirty Methane rockets were cheap, and could be built simple as they experienced less thermal variation without cryogenic fuel.

SpaceX undercut the competition and turned itself into a monopoly while Boeing threw their hand to the stockholders. Now SpaceX picks up the pieces of the game they upended.

NASA was supposed to manage a thriving marketplace, full of competition. Instead it managed its way to a monopolistic structure that a single entity may try to sieze.

Fun fact about autocratic structures like monopolies and dictatorships: they can't grow power themselves, they can only sieze power organized by others.

We need to build our next wave of structures in a distributed fashion such that the levers of power are not so concentrated that they may fall into the wrong hands.

Give the power to the people. All of them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Space travel is exceptional in that you need an incredible amount of cooperation to get a project into space. The supply chains are insane, the component parts highly specialized and hugely expensive, and the range of expertise and knowledge required is simultaneously focused and intense and broad and varied. If human society ever does manage to transition to a genuine people power, space flight will be, to my knowledge, the very last thing we achieve, because it takes so many people working together to get it done. The scope of these projects makes you realise how easy it must have been to build the pyramids. Two brothers can build a plane that just about works, but to get a vehicle to orbit needs a city of people working together.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Almost like Jim Bridenstone was a bad pick….

[–] [email protected] 18 points 12 hours ago

Space exploration certainly will be the final frontier, its the last thing this pathetic species will have ever worked on before blinking out of existence.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I wanna try something...

Ahem. Investors! I have the concept of a plan to put gigantic billboards in space that can be seen by half the planet at any given time. Give me money.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't coke propose doing that with colored powder on the moon?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

In one of the Red Dwarf books, there's a subplot about sending hundreds of stars supernova simultaneous in order to spell out Coke Adds Life in the sky.

Pepsi would be buried.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 minutes ago

I didn't know there were books!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Space: the final (capitalistic) frontier.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 13 hours ago

Humanity: Let's make a bunch of stories about how space capitalism has some really bad outcomes.

Also Humanity: That sound great! let's do that!

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 17 hours ago (9 children)

I had a lengthy argument with someone that Musk couldn't possibly be kissing Trump's ass for money - he's a billionaire after all and "has all the money he needs". No no, Musk is doing this out of the goodness of his cold billionaire heart. Isn't it obvious?

Why are so many people so stupid? WHY?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 15 hours ago

Ah yes, the essential personality traits to becoming the richest person: integrity, and stopping once you have all the money you need.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Elongated Muskrat is a billionaire who wants to become the first trillionaire. That’s what these people aren’t getting. It’s all just a game to him. He thinks that he lives in a simulation and everyone else is an NPC. He now wants to set a new high score.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

As we all know, the ultra-rich are famous for getting to a certain level of wealth and saying, "NO MORE! I RENOUNCE THIS CAPITALIST SOCIETY AND NOW ONLY WORK FOR THE GOOD OF HUMANITY!"

[–] MrsDoyle 3 points 12 hours ago

I comfort myself by saying I have something Musk and his ilk never will: ENOUGH.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

Some other country is gonna have the new nasa, and the united states is going to fall even further behind. It'll just be a brain drain and most of it isn't going to go to space-x.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

People poke fun of Musk as being a idiot. But he had us Kaiser Soze'd by pretending to be dumb so that he could implement his self-serving ideas.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Musk is not the smart person behind any of the companies he is part of today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwynne_Shotwell

... is why I would have invested in SpaceX pre-Russian aggression against NATO and their allies.

Now ... no, thank you. They can keep their private equity to their little NAZI hands.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

That's why Musk is smart, because he is a scammer.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

He efficiently using the government to make himself richer. What more did anybody expect?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Well… that, but inefficient.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 17 hours ago

NASA has already sent out emails to their teams and contractors about what implications this can have on their departments. Shit’s bad.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 20 hours ago

And absolutely no one paying attention was shocked.

[–] [email protected] 181 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Remember when on Interstellar there's this whole prologue about the collapse of the US, the dismantling of NASA and the family getting on an argument with the school because the official stance now is that the moon landing never happened and mankind never went to space (despite there being still people alive who went there)?

So, anyway, life imitates art …

[–] [email protected] 32 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 15 hours ago

One of Trumps supporters even got punched by Buzz.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 15 hours ago

We ain't getting Interstellar, we're getting Don't Look Up.

[–] winterayars 16 points 17 hours ago

I remember when that movie came out people argued with me that the Democrats were the party that was going to create the world of Interstellar and the Republicans were "standing up for science".

It was obviously nonsense then so i have little illusions that those people have changed their view on it--or if they have, they've simply changed to believe the moon landing was faked.

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[–] [email protected] 156 points 1 day ago

NASA, like the post office, is such a public benefit that we should be funding it well.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

NASA does research. They push the boundaries corporations can't.

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