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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Which is why republicans and conservatives want it gone: they want you to have children.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam 5 points 3 hours ago

They want you to have children, and they want you to do it before you're ready. They want you to be barely surviving so you can't afford to switch jobs or take time off. They want you too powerless to have any leverage over your ~~owner~~ employer.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago

Absolutely. Which is exactly the reason they want to take it away from you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

might be preaching to the choir a little bit

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago

Birth control is nothing more than a form of medical technology. People against birth control and abortion(also medical technology) are Medical Luddites.

They must be afraid of losing their jobs at crisis pregnancy centers, or be afraid they won't be allowed to shame young single mothers anymore.

[–] agamemnonymous 43 points 18 hours ago

The worst part is draconic abortion bans also hurt those trying to have children. No one's getting recreational third trimester abortions. You picked out a name, painted the nursery. Late term abortions are tragedies to all parties, and only ever happen because of life threatening conditions.

I wouldn't want to plan a child when any complication could mean death.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 16 hours ago (3 children)
[–] Grumpy 2 points 4 hours ago

It's not and such content should be banned from memes. But Lemmy has nearly no moderation on validity of content. Tbh, I like Reddit a lot better in many ways except for the asshole admins. It has problems, but still lot better controlled than here.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 hours ago

A meme (/miːm/ ⓘ; MEEM) is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning representing a particular phenomenon or theme. A meme acts as a unit for carrying cultural ideas, symbols, or practices, that can be transmitted from one mind to another through writing, speech, gestures, rituals, or other imitable phenomena with a mimicked theme. Supporters of the concept regard memes as cultural analogues to genes in that they self-replicate, mutate, and respond to selective pressures. In popular language, a meme may refer to an Internet meme, typically an image, that is remixed, copied, and circulated in a shared cultural experience online.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme

[–] [email protected] 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Ikr? Lemmy is 99% stuff like this, when really all i want to do on here is laugh

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

Yes. It gets tiring. There aren't even breaks in between "zomg! Look what trump and friends are doing! We are so much better" memes over and over and over and over.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 20 hours ago

They know, that's the point.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I know I'm probably wrong here, and I'm willing to be better informed, but I don't like the phrasing of abortion as mere "birth control," as if it were equal to methods that prevent conception or implantation.

Do people really feel it's not a different sort of act, or would people be comfortable using abortion as their sole means of birth control (if it were safe and inconsequential to the woman)? And yes, I understand that the morning after pill is something of a gray area.

Also yes, I am a Christian. But I understand that there are good reasons for abortion remaining legal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Well depends what you mean by birth control... is it a way to prevent pregnancy or children?

Since birth is in the name i'd say the term is better suited for referring to anything preventing the birth of a children. But what the term refers to has no barring on what's happening.

It never meant people don't make a difference. Any reasonable women knows and feel the difference.

The fact it's less safe and has worse effects on your health is just another way we realize how serious an abortion is. It will never be inconsequential even if it was safe.

Please do not to trust anyone who says people disagree with this. They all have a political reason to lie.

[–] Sabre363 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Abortion is, by definition, a form of birth control, but I don't think most people would ever consider it to be equal to other forms of controlling birth. However, let's not forget that for a lot of people abortion is quite literally the only birth control they may have access to, and even that access may come at huge risk. There are often family, social, religious (this is the big one), or cultural pressures that get in the way of accessing contraceptives until it is too late.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Absolutely understand, and while it's hard for me to believe that anyone doesn't know about condoms, a religious person who chooses abortion over condoms really makes me scratch my head.

But I guess you mean a kid living in a "religious" household. Man, I wish there was a way to communicate to kids that feeling your old enough for sex means feeling you're old enough to make good decisions about preventing pregnancy.

I mean frankly the whole thing's just too damn big for me. My heart goes out to everyone who finds themselves with these kinds of choices.

[–] Sabre363 5 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, I was getting at living in a religious household, but I can say from experience that it goes far deeper than that. There is way too often a toxic and parasitic mentality that constantly says things like birth control are evil and aren't to be talked about. When that kind of thinking permeates every aspect of one's life or community, it can make it difficult, humiliating, or outright dangerous for people to seek out things like contraceptives.

Also, I know this thinking doesn't hold true of all religious folks, and it's refreshing to see someone genuinely curious and asking questions rather than judging automatically, so thank you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

You're making some huge assumptions about the quality of sex and health education that those kids have had access to. It's easy to point a finger and say, well you should be more responsible, but the reality is that adolescents are still learning and developing. So even with great education, they make bad decisions. They won't have adult brains until their early to mid 20s. And there's no reason why those decisions should ruin lives, when modern medicine can resolve the dilemma in minutes.

In other words, you're making an argument for much better and more widely available sex and health education. Which religious types are likely to oppose. Can't have it both ways- either the kids are fully informed and made an error, or their guardians failed them and set them on a track with a veil of ignorance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago

The folk wanting to restrict it probably don't want to respect autonomy too much.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

Republicans:

Ban it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You still are a wage slave paying rent to a landed lord.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Better than committing another soul to the same fate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

And mutually beneficially so does UBI et al

[–] [email protected] -2 points 12 hours ago

Not so funny.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Memes don't have to be jokes

[–] Awesomo85 -1 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, as long as they deliver a message that is politically Democrat, then it belongs here.

Fun is no longer an option for this feed.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Name another unfunny one so I can back you on that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Memes don't have to be funny to be a meme.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

I'm backing you now.

Memes don't have to be funny to be a meme.