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Was this part of "the plan"? (i.ibb.co)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] ShareMySims 90 points 3 months ago

It actually was precisely the plan - conspiracy theories are sown by the establishment to deflect from itself and shift blame elsewhere, so they can get away with whatever they want to and still maintain power.

Qanon was about deflecting "the most rich and powerful in society get away with trafficking, rape, and murder" to "liberals get away with trafficking, rape, and murder". In the same way that "the economy is controlled by a small group of rich and powerful capitalists" is deflected to "the economy is controlled by Jews", and "abusive men in positions of power groom children" to "drag queens groom children".

It's one way to manufacture consent, and it works.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And they got the majority of the population to back their quest. Unreal.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Majority of voters =/= majority of population

Edit: Correction, Majority of voters who casted a valid ballot.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

That is true, and a good point. Thanks :)

[–] blockheadjt 4 points 3 months ago

Past tense of cast is cast, unless you're talking about making a plaster mold

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Majority of voting-able population.

Non-voters are excused, abstained are fully complicit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

They got the majority of the votes are screaming about electoral fraud, and everything they say is a projection, so...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hey don't give up yet maybe some of the supreme court will retire and Trump can bring a pedophile to the top justice position in the land.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We are ruled by rapists

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Always were. Rapists, pedophiles, and human traffickers.

Every accusation was a confession.

[–] Mouselemming 13 points 3 months ago

This got me to exhale forcefully, and the corners of my mouth crept up slightly. Which in these days of horror and darkness is something.

It isn't "The Onion Now Owns InfoWars" hilarious, but it's funny.

And the tiny possibility he won't be approved is ... interesting.

Kakistocracy: is it better or worse than having competent fascists in charge?

[–] anomnom 12 points 3 months ago

When every accusation is a confession, yes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

He's a good pick for AG because he knows all the traffickers moves!

[–] andrew_bidlaw 2 points 3 months ago

Donald's admin to order the 'cellar special' would be nothing surprising.

[+] iAmTheTot -14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think Gaetz qualifies as a paedophile, at least with what we know. Rapist and child sexual abuser fits though.

Those of you downvoting me, do you know something I don't?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Child sexual abuser is not pedo? Wtf are you on?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Many child abusers are no pedophiles. And many pedophiles are no child abusers. You need to look up the exact numbers yourself but surprisingly many child abusers have no sexual attraction to kids. It's often about power and availability.

[–] iAmTheTot 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Paedophilia is the sexual attraction to prepubescent children. As far as I'm aware that's not what Gaetz is accused of.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Could be saying a 17 year old doesn't qualify as pedophilia. The definition has shifted a lot over the years. When I was a legal adult at 18 I was having sex with a 17 year old. Am I a pedophile?

For the record fuck Gaetz and his 17 year old fucking, tiny faced, fleeing justice ass.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So brave thank god you stood up for all those brave 42 year olds fucking 17 year olds. with this argument:

When I was a legal adult at 18 I was having sex with a 17 year old. Am I a pedophile?

such a stupid fucking question

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

24 year olds fucking 17 year old is legal in florida.

He was much older than 24 at the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Exactly.

[+] [email protected] -20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Can someone explain to me why this is pushed so hard? I read up on the issue, and it was a friend of his who was trafficing girls. Then an FBI sting tried to coerce his father by offering a ton of money to get him to say his son was in on it. Local FBI set his dad up with a wire and they actually arrested/charged/sentenced the FBI agent who tried to go after him.

Like, this is easily findable information.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Pedo apologists get blocked. 👋

“She Was a High School Student and There Were Witnesses.” The fight to release a damning House Ethics report about allegations that Matt Gaetz—Donald Trump’s pick for attorney general—had sex with a 17-year-old girl has begun

Edit: removed accidental reddit link

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

So why were these FBI agents charged and sentenced then?

Edit: read the article, I didn't see any hard evidence. just accusations. See: mattress girl for why accusations aren't sentences

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

See mattress girl... Hey friend I've been terminally online before too. I went to rehab, and a psychiatrist. I did some therapy with a psychologist but it didn't do much for me.

I'm the same person I always was, same human body. But things have changed so much for the better it's surprising.

Shit hit the fan in my family and I got fired from my job. That's when I asked for help. There's no shame in asking for help. Take it from a 41 year old badass in my new career.

It takes time... But if you're still thinking about mattress girl let that shit go. It's nothing. It shouldn't have affected you in the first place. Let go of the shit that brought you to post about this in 2024.

Ask for help. I'll talk to you if you want, judgement free. I have today off once I sleep for a bit.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Lol. Good for you, getting back up on your feet.

I'm using mattress girl as an example of how simply believing accusations can go very, very, very wrong. Not all women lie about sexual assault, but the very fact that some do means we cannot condemn someone merely for the accusations. As a 41 year old, you should understand that concept.

But isn't that interesting, that your response is to just forget that it ever happened because it didn't happen last week. How very simple that would be, if we just forgot past lessons. Hey, in that spirit, we should just forget Hitler, he happened much further back than mattress girl did, so he should just be that much more forgotten then, shouldn't he?

It's wild that your argument is "forget history," but I've been thoroughly entertained, thank you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just curious, what's your opinion on the death penalty?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I have a hard time with the death penalty. I don't think it should be used unless 100% certain guilt, like DNA evidence. But even then, stuff can be planted. And I used to say video evidence, but even that can be faked now with the rise of AI.

So I lean more towards not having a death penalty, and using multiple life imprisonments instead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I've been defending you in this thread and tried to offer help.

On reread of my comment it looks like I went to rehab for Internet problems which isn't the case. I was having seizures from my alcohol addiction. I hope that's less funny.

Your response: you forget history Hitler lol. Mattress girl isn't history. Except in the fact that it's some bullshit to get hung up on that an unhinged person did that's still banging around in your head.

This response actually enraged me when I first read it.

It's cool now though. If you want to talk I'll listen.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

I'm sorry you had alcohol problems that led to such difficulty, that really is awful and I'm glad you got better and changed your life. You're barking up the wrong tree though, the only thing I've been close to being addicted to is Adderall in my party days, and as soon as I felt like I wanted to skip work and have fun instead, I stopped using it. That was 15 years ago. I drink socially and always have, maybe a drink every three weeks or so.

And I have a vibrant offline life, thank you.

Are you claiming mattress girl didn't happen? Because that's a pretty wild take considering all the court transcripts available, documenting everything. Not sure how you call that not-history. It happened. All of it is documented. False accusations happen. That's the point of what I'm saying.

[–] blockheadjt 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So you think someone who paid a pimp to fuck a minor is totally cool to be Attorney General of the United States?

[+] [email protected] -8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He's been accused, but that's it. Accusations don't make someone guilty.

So, if it comes out that he did actually do it, fine. But the evidence actually points to it being a political hit job.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That's the thing, they may have the evidence of that, the drugs, and the campaign finance shit. But as soon as T nommed him up he quit his job. Which means all the investigations stop.

So now it's unlikely if it ever will come out if he did it. Mike Johnson says drop it. Some Representatives are saying publish it.

My bet is we never see it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I hope we do, very much so, but only because I think everything should be transparent in government.

Both Dems and Rinos hate him so much he'd be gone if he actually did what he's accused of. Innocent until proven guilty and there's no evidence of guilt.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Gaetz is from a wealthy well connected old money Florida family. His daddy has bailed him out of crime jams before already. This man has never had to be accountable a single time in his life. He's literally the 80s villan fratbro archetype come to life.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I'd say 90s just because he looks like Butthead come to life.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What sort of crime jams? It really depends on the type. For example, I voted in the guy who has felonies on his record, but laws were changed in order to make those charges felonies specifically to charge him, and there was no victim. So, it's a situational thing for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

DUI in 2008 that was dropped while his daddy was a Florida State senator.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It sucks that sort of thing happens, but as long as its not happening again and that it didn't happen while in office I'm good with that. We all make mistakes. Im glad his DUI didn't lead to a death

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why go this hard defending Matt Gaetz? Crimes or not, the dude is a fucking asshole.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're asking why I don't just fall in with the masses claiming someone is guilty without evidence? It's not about who, it's about why. I don't care if someone is an asshole it's not a reason to condemn them for something if they didn't do it.

But do go on with your bad self.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Uh, what? Anyway, I said I’m not talking about the alleged crimes (which several people have now testified before Congress that they witnessed in person - anyway). Rather, my point was that he’s a stupid prick. I’m condemning him for that. Hope this clarification helps.

[–] blockheadjt 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're a lost cause, obviously, but for anyone else here, don't trust the troll! Just block that kind of behavior.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Everyone who disagrees with you isn't a troll.