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Former CIA Director Leon Panetta warned that Trump’s return to the White House could embolden Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, giving him a "blank check" in the Middle East and increasing the risk of war with Iran.

Panetta expressed concern that Trump would support Netanyahu's aggressive stance against Iran without restraint, potentially worsening regional instability.

Panetta also predicted Trump might allow Russia to retain parts of Ukraine if he returns to office, though he doubted Trump’s negotiation skills.

He criticized Trump’s approach to foreign policy, suggesting Trump would be inclined to "capitulate" to authoritarian leaders, which may not sit well with some Republicans.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 days ago (14 children)

But thank God we saved Palestine from the evil black lady right? /s

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"We stood up for our PRINCIPLES!!!"

-- screamed over the sound of brown people being exterminated

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (15 children)

Waiiiiit, are you saying that not voting Kamala didn't magically stop the genocide in Gaza?????

That it only accelerates it, like I and other people have been saying for months????

WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING?!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

I got banned from a community saying this as calmly as possible XD Idk i feel like theses tankies who were overwhelmingly hostile are either shills or hypocrits who just want to hurt the big bad capitalist, short and long term consequences be damned. (Tankies=/=Leftists just a reminder)

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What is fucked is that no matter what happens. They will insist that it was all the Democrat's fault and all the fault of communists and socialists. They will be believed both despite the absurdity of it all and because of the absurdity of it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago (31 children)

in reality it was the 20 million voters that abstained from voting this election.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (12 children)

They literally stood off to the side and allowed in the man who will facilitate the complete annihilation of Palestine, so in truth they really never gave a shit about Palestinians, it was all bullshit. With Harris you at least had someone reacted to criticism and you could work with but Trump doesn't give a single fuck about criticism or what people want

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Whew! Good thing the moral purity brigade shunned Kamala Harris.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Didn't you know trump will stop the genocide....by writing a check so large that Israel completely removes Palestinians from the map... can't have a genocide of Palestinians if there are no more Palestinians.

Check mate libruls

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, Trump will definitly ensure that the suffering of Palestenian people ends quickly

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

Judging by the lack of consequences for the previously observed war crimes, my bet is they'll prolong the suffering to sate their revenge lust. See if anyone bothers to step in when they erect full blown torture camps.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I heard the "but there won't be any of these wars once Trump is back" argument several times.

I would usually revel in watching the walls come down around someone's stupid opinions, but in this case, we as a country have to suffer for it.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago (4 children)

That should put paid to the myth that Trump is 'the antidote to all the wars'.

I always thought that the argument 'no wars were started during his presidency' was bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

He spent all 4 years totaling around 3 trillion in Afghanistan, to accomplish nothing.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

crazy to think that trump might do exactly what he said he was going to do. how could we, the voters, have predicted this?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I believe Putin's power over Trump will prevent anyone doing anything extreme about Iran. Russia has always had an interest in controlling Iran and certainly would not approve the US taking it out.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Don't worry there were no wars under Trump last time and there won't be this time it's that simple 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I genuinely don't know whether you're being sarcastic or not.

Yes, despite the smiley-spam.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

Trump’s voters are so unhinged that it has become almost impossible to distinguish sarcasm from their real thoughts. Poe’s law n shit

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

And these fuckin morons will still say there was no wars under Trump

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

It does feel about on-brand for this timeline that Trump of all leaders might get the credit for fixing* the Middle East problem.

  • where the problem is the existence of the conflict, and the solution of a glassy wasteland littered with charred skeletons will successfully not have regional conflicts for a thousand years.
[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

He criticized Trump’s approach to foreign policy, suggesting Trump would be inclined to “capitulate” to authoritarian leaders, which may not sit well with some Republicans.

Don't they even know who they picked to represent them?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

"ex official said: this might happen and that might mean" how is this relevant news?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

I would hedge my bets for now. Alternative scenario: The Saudis throw another party for Trump, make some business deals in exchange for reigning in Israel. The House of Al Saud of course doesn't care about Palestinians but their people do and a party and some business is a low price to pay to be celebrated by your subjects.

When it comes to Russia, Trump may realise that Putin way overplayed his hand, but that's balanced by animosity towards Zelensky. OTOH, I mean, business deals. Don't underestimate Ukraine when it comes to being smooth operators. They can sell NASA/SpaceX rocket engines made from Russian war reparations titanium.

Thing is: Trump is highly neurotic and thus, while not necessarily predictable, highly manipulatable if you know what you're doing. Only have to blow the right smoke up his ass.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Iran did try and assassinate him, I wouldn't be surprised if he holds a grudge for that.

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