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Until the rule is removed, any new posts about US politics will be removed.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 6 days ago (15 children)

Instead of complaining can someone who dislikes this decision please just create a community like "AskLemmyUS", post a link here so people can find it and get on with it?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

That's what I've told so many complaining people. If anyone wanted to they could make one and it would be filled with users in hours, just click create community. Hell tell the mods here to suggest people go there for those discussions, they'd probably link it in the sidebar. But someone has to do it. (And as a mod of a few other communities, someone else can take that one)

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (19 children)

How the fuck is Lemmy supposed to serve as an open alternative to corporate controlled social media when the mods ban discussing one of the most impactful events of the day? You should be begging people to talk about politics here. Unsubbed. EDIT: AND BLOCKED. If I wanted to hang out in a fascist community I'd join twitter.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 6 days ago (16 children)

By giving people the opportunity to host their own instances and create their own communities with rules they like. This however does not mean that everything should be allowed everywhere. Actually this means that everywhere you go people make their own rules and if you dont like them, go somewhere else or create your own community.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This however is the main problem of social media in general. It creates circles of like-minded people where it is really easy to reject "other" thoughts and accept "our" ideas without much questioning. This is less a problem for people who are trained in critical thinking, but might be dangerous for more unstable people.

I'm just saying that a mix of different views is always good to some degree. Whether/how this should be done on Lemmy is a different thing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It creates circles of like-minded people where it is really easy to reject “other” thoughts and accept “our” ideas without much questioning.

I know it sounds counter-intuitive, but there is an argument to be made that we should actually go back to smaller, more secluded forums on the internet that are less connected with outside views.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (10 children)

I'm for making a megathread for people who really want to talk about it here but I genuinely don't understand why you're upset you can't talk about US politics everywhere in the platform. There are tons of communities for that. AskLemmy is for

open-ended, thought provoking questions

Instead, most US related posts are for venting and complaining. See these communities instead:

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

And dozens of similar communities on other instances. It's not censorship to ask you to go to use the proper channels, not everyone here wants to see US news everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Mods are people of the community too. If you don't like them, you can make your own community.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago

Because we're glad it is finally over after having deal with your election bullshit for the last half year? We made contingency plans for a trump win, so we acknowledged his win this morning, hope the planning is sufficient, and finally move on to something else.

[–] Sendpicsofsandwiches 14 points 6 days ago

Because you can go to literally any instance and create a community just for political drivel or even just go to the hundreds of other communities already dedicated to exactly that.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Would it be possible to have a single mega thread for all US politics questions?

There are alot of worried, scared people with alot of questions. Why not have a place for it, keeping the rest out of the community.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Thanks, other communities like [email protected] don't have such rules, the community is overriden with questions about US politics

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I get that it's annoying, but we're sad, and angry, and scared, and we don't know where to go. Maybe someone will make us a community called "Now what?" where we can cry, shout, wallow a bit, and then make a plan for survival.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I think both are valid tbh. I get that a lot of people don't want to hear and and I get that a lot of people are upset. How do you compromise and help with both?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Be the change you want to see then. You can make that community. I mean this in a supportive way. Go for it!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Sure, but... is "too much discussion" really a problem that Lemmy has? This is kind of a threatening time for some of us, especially if we don't have a lot of friends irl.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

This makes me more likely to actually visit here. I'm sick of reading propaganda and people spouting propaganda from all sides, and I come to spaces like this for funnies, interesting topics, and so on. My political interests go elsewhere. I appreciate not having to wade through them here.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago

It's honestly tiring to see the 20th post on the same topic from a country you don't live in

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

at this point i'm starting to believe that the reddit format just rots people's brains.
i don't know the reason behind this decision, maybe it was taken in bad faith or something, but the amount of people shitting and pissing themselves over this when there are already other communities better specialized for it is mind numbing.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I get it, but realistically there's only like 20 posts a day left in here. Nothing is really getting overrun.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

10 yesterday. We are too small for temp rules.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I disagree with this decision because people need to ask questions to prepare for their safety.

Please reconsider this rule.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

[email protected] has 5 few active threads since yesterday, such as

Feel free to open others if needed

[–] where_am_i 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

pointless. the entire lemmy will be on fire for a month or so.

I've blocked all US political communities. I've blocked 20+ users who posted US political content in other communities. When I now filter by most popular in the last 24h, it's only US election outcome content.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago

I came here since I was fed up with the politics on Reddit.

I was pretty disappointed when I saw the same thing happening here. So thanks!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This rule applies only to the AskLemmy community. A ban on US politics posts in AskLemmy makes sense for several reasons:

  1. US politics tends to dominate many online spaces already, drowning out other valuable discussions.

  2. Political discussions, especially about US politics, often become heated and polarized quickly, which can detract from the thoughtful, contemplative atmosphere that open-ended questions are meant to foster. When people discuss US politics, they tend to take hardened positions rather than engaging in genuine exploration of ideas.

  3. US political discussions often fall into predictable patterns and talking points, which goes against the spirit of having thought-provoking questions. The same debates tend to play out repeatedly, offering little new insight or opportunity for meaningful reflection.

  4. A community focused on open-ended questions should ideally have a global perspective. US political discussions can make the space feel less welcoming to non-US users who might have fascinating questions and perspectives to share about their own cultures, philosophies, and experiences.

  5. There are other communities whose purpose better aligns with discussions about US politics.

  6. People need some communities where they can engage with others and NOT have to see or think about the recent election.

Nobody wants every community to be a free-for-all about every topic. Please feel free to discuss US politics in a relevant community about the US, about politics, or about world news.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Commenting again to repeat that I think it's awesome that you're going with a redirect rather than the ban hammer approach.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Thank you so much !

[email protected] seems like a good place to redirect those conversations, maybe you could consider adding it to the sidebar, should the rule become permanent?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It could be useful to link to some relevant communities in this posts description if people do want to ask questions.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

Please permanentize this!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Thank you! Could this be permanent? People can use an AskLemmyPolitics community if they really need to.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

I just made a post (my first actually) about this today. I think it's better for the user to decide what they want to see and use filters rather than block posts entirely.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

ABOUT FUCKING TIME!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (5 children)

We just had probably the most consequential election of our life and you want to ban discussion? Jeezus.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago (8 children)

This is an ask community, not a politics community. Not everything revolves around America

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

... And now you can't ask anything about politics. There's was doubtless going to be political questions to ask, and politic adjacent (where do I move) that will all be removed.

And you can't even ask about effects on the world either! Gaza, Ukraine, NATO, trade, tariffs, etc. Are those going to be removed? All valid questions, but sounds political to me.

Like way to shut down shit tons of conversation.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (4 children)

THIS ISN'T A DISCUSSION COMMUNITY! IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OPEN ENDED QUESTIONS. MOST POLITICAL DISCUSSIONS AREN'T OPEN ENDED.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We get 10ish posts here a day... I guess if you want less activity here good job you win. I hate these temp rules in communities.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I only see one thread in the modlog too. Seems kinda weird.

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