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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If that were the case, climate change caused the entire Roman Empire, the Chinese empire, the Mayans, the Songhai, all of feudalism...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Scared people want strong leaders (a daddy) to tell them it's okay, it's not the climate, it's the queers, migrants, etc. And Daddy's going to fix it.

Blame may not be the right word. But the destruction of our environment and everything that goes with it, certainly gives authoritarianism an opening.

Judith Butler goes pretty deep into this in Who's Afraid of Gender? Of course their analysis focuses mostly on how gender queer people end up being targeted. But the unnamed fear of climate destruction is a big factor. And trans people one of many scapegoats for power hungry demagogues.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Changing climate did have a major impact on all of those Empires though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Usually it's a combination with dysfunctional politics, war, resource depletion and climate change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not entirely sure climate change couldn't just be argued to be the cause of all the others there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You can have succession wars, incompetent inbred rulers and overexploitation without any climate change. But climate change would make it more likely to happen and make the outcome worse.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Who upvotes this nonsense? lol.

The causes of problems today are not necessarily the causes of problems for mayans, ancient romans, etal. It's sad that I have to say this.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or maybe a broken political and economic system is causing a gathering of wealth in the hands of the 1% which is a major factor behind both climate change and increasing authoritarianism

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Any system will become broken is the same way. The top always gets greedy.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

Well in my ideal system (a form of decentralised anarchy) there is no “top”.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Late stage capitalism is to blame for both.

[–] n3m37h 7 points 1 month ago

Broken education system is to blame

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You got it backwards mate

Authoritarianism enables climate change, not the other way around

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

I have had the belief for a few years that the rise of fascism is an emotional response to being afraid of an uncertain future that people feel like they have no power over.

[–] the_crotch 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

It was 9/11 butterfly effect. The US's wars caused a refugee crisis, xenophobes across North America and Europe got their panties in a bunch about all the new brown people, turned to nationalism. New (and popular) authoritarian anti terrorism laws probably didn't help either.

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