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Back in uni, most of these dark patterns were taught as "game design fundamentals".

Now as I work on my indie games, I avoid using what I learned in uni.

Game design all boils down to "is it fun?" and anything else is bullshit sales tactics.

I wish the site also focused on real games, and not just mobile games.

Literally just found out yesterday my wife has been spending on average 100$ a month on one of these games yesterday, thanks for the helpful site.

Now I guess I get to figure out how to have conversations with her that I never thought I'd have to have.

If you want games just to play games I recommend downloading from f Droid. Pretty much every other game has ulterior motives be it ads or microtransactions. I haven't come across a game on f Droid yet that has either of those.

Interesting. I was chatting with a lot of big name AAA designers and indie designers discussing dark patterns, and they've got a very different opinion on what constitutes a dark pattern. To them, largely, it needs to be more technical deception - like having a fake "X" button, or immediately popping up an ad over where a button was to trick you into clicking it, or bait-and-switching pricing before the user notices.

I tried to raise these kinds of patterns as problematic, and it was a mixed bag. The general vibe from them was that they'd only call it a dark pattern if it deceives the player to get more money than they were prepared to spend (or similar for ads). If the player knows what they're getting into, and they are presented with a choice to stop or continue, it's on them.

And I'll admit, while I don't go that far (and there were designers in both camps), I can at least understand how all game design is manipulation, in the same way that teaching and storytelling is manipulation, and drawing the lines can be very hard. Your job is to convince the player that they are having fun and want to keep playing. Resources in a game have no real value, only valued by the scarcity and utility of them, which the designer intentionally assigns to convince the player it's more or less valuable.

Curiously, the examples listed in the OP were exactly the patterns I see designers discuss, but don't seem to be the patterns on the website (like "illusion of control", artificial scarcity, which is like, game designs while thing).

Either way, nice to have this as a resource because honestly a lot of these elements are what I'd put in the "bad / abusive design" category rather than purely dark patterns, but still great to highlight, but I can agree that we should probably be careful blanket calling these dark patterns; examples: It mentions illusion of control being separating you into shards of leader boards so that you can be in the top 500 of a shard rather than top 200,000 world ranking or whatever, or claw machines choosing whether you successfully grab an item rather than relying on skill. How does this compare to Uncharted not letting enemies successfully shoot you in the first few seconds of an action sequence to give you time to ground yourself, or Resident Evil spawning different loot and enemies based on how good/bad you play?

I'd say, is it to extract money from you in the short term, but it's more grey than a non-designer might read into from lists like these.

It's kinda funny, I've become so turned off to these manipulations that the gamification of duolingo just annoys me more than it motivates me. The whole point is to learn a language. Power ups that let you extend the time to complete a timed exercise don't help with learning a language. Getting to the top of the leaderboard didn't make a difference either, especially if it was done using xp boosts.

At this point, I just hate that it forces me to spend time watching various meaningless bars fill up after each lesson.

I've even missed a couple of days, thinking "oh well, there goes my streak, which also doesn't really matter", only to find that they cared more about keeping that than I did and have automatic freezes. Though it wanted me to buy more after the last one, so I'm thinking the next time I miss a day it'll finally go back to 0.

Oh and yes, duolingo is a pay to win language learning game where you can give them money for boosts in the meaningless gamification shit. Even after buying a year subscription (that I don't plan on renewing).

They also completely skip any of the foundational stuff and jump right in to phrases that they don't explain. I'm a few months into Japanese lessons on there and it still hasn't even mentioned that it's been teaching the polite form and that other forms exist (which makes things confusing if you try to use other resources that generally use the neutral form).

It might be better for other languages that aren't so different from English, but I do not suggest duolingo if you want to learn Japanese.

Tbh I don't suggest learning Japanese at all if you aren't strong with languages and memorization. There's a couple thousand kanji symbols you need to learn for everyday communication, and each of those can be combined with others to form words that aren't always intuitive, and then those words can be strung together into sentences that also aren't intuitive to interpret.

Tbf, last time I checked the site it had stuff like ”random loot” listed as a dark pattern. Gacha sucks, but random loot from a boss is IMO valid game design.

Invested / Endowed Value - Having already spent time and money to improve your status in the game, it's difficult to throw it away.

Isn't that every game? I can't think of a single game, back to old Atari 2600 or arcade games, that doesn't have this element. Many people are playing to see how far they can get, to beat the game.

grinding

glances at my 300 hours of OldSchool Runescape

It's sad that the most unhealthy games are the ones ranked as most played on the google play store 😮‍💨

This is such a good idea, I'm almost mad it wasn't made sooner!

The list of "Healthy Games" is a great resource to have!

Thanking for sharing OP. This is really good.

Reading the descriptions on the dark patterns and dark social patterns, That's actually the stuff I miss about world of Warcraft.