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No video released yet but the right wing blog-sphere is already claiming it's AI. Put on your seat-belts and keep your hands inside the car at all times.

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[–] [email protected] 276 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Maybe there's a video, maybe there's not.

But nobody is saying "No way! Trump would never do that!" or "This is a shocking scandal that nobody would have believed!"

[–] [email protected] 120 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

That's the sad reality of it. The sadder part is that, even if it's true, his cult still won't care.

And, of course, the minor being groped won't see any justice.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think what's even sadder is that so-called moderates and centrists won't care. Trump didn't win in 2016 due to his cult. He won because everyday people recognized how fucked up he was and decided they didn't care.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And don't forget the "huhuhuhuh imma vote for him as a joke, bro" crowd.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are a lot of people who went for Trump in 2016 that he's never going to get back again. The "I only voted for him as a joke because I thought he had no chance and I didn't like Clinton as a candidate" folks are real. I know one in real life and he's very repentant. Voted for Biden in 2020 and will be voting for Harris this November.

He's no longer an unknown quantity, so people voting for him because they were giving him the benefit of the doubt have had an entire Trump term to have that doubt stripped away. I think they'll avoid making that mistake again, just like they avoided it in 2020.

Then there's the accelerationists who thought voting Trump in would be the quickest way to bring about a rapid collapse of the shitty duopoly and convince both parties that they need to reevaluate their platforms. As it turns out, it just dragged both parties even further right, so those guys can safely stay home knowing that handing Trump a second term isn't going to further their agenda in the slightest.

I'm sure there were a lot of people who were just duped with misinformation and bullshit, and I hope those guys still remember how they were tricked last time and vote accordingly.

Lastly, I still believe that there are American voters out there who drew lines in the sand, said they were uncrossable, and meant it. Things like staging a coup to remain in power, getting impeached twice, threatening to end the constitution, and threatening to use the military against his political opponents. Those people have to step up to the plate now more than ever.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That was my reading in 2016 -- before the election, I realized that the "thrill vote" would go to Trump, and the average folks were going to sit it out because Hillary Clinton couldn't energize anybody.

I'm getting a lot of those feelings around KH too. I just hope folks come out for the anti-Trump vote, at least.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I grabbed her titty. She asked me too. With a tear in her eye she said please please please Mr. Trump touch my titty. I obligated. I couldn't help it. I had to. She was so innocent. It was a perfect titty touch.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

As hard as it is to listen to talk radio it's also kind of fun to catch the nuances in their bullshit. Someone accuses Trump of praising Hitler and immediately they say, "Wow! This is such a desperate play from the Democrats!"

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

If anyone produces multiple bowls of spaghetti from behind their backs we'll know it's AI... Otherwise it already sounds like plausible behavior for someone who bragged about "grabbing 'em by the pussy".

That's the thing to remind people about - he's already said he gropes women. He's already said he walks in on minors at teen beauty pageants.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For accuracy's sake, he said he walked in on the adult pageants. He was also accused of walking in on the teen pageants.

I'm 100% certain he did both though.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You're right about that minor detail, I must have misremembered - because it's actually multiple minors who have spoken up as victims of his predations:

On the heels of the damaging videotape on which Trump and former Access Hollywood host Billy Bush salivated over Days of Our Live actress Arianne Zucker, and joked about sexually assaulting women, came allegations that Trump entered the Miss Teen USA changing room where girls as young as 15 were in various states of undress.

Mariah Billado, Miss Teen Vermont 1997 told BuzzFeed, “I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here.'” Three other teenage contestants from the same year confirmed the story.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/a-timeline-of-donald-trumps-creepiness-while-he-owned-miss-universe-191860/

He's so prolific in being a known rapist and molester that Wikipedia has a page for the receipts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

...and their issues with the page (from the tags at the top) are too often it uses Trump's own admissions as the source, and that it needs to be updated. Both of which indicate just how into doing this sort of stuff he is.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's not just what he has said, it's what he has done:

Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll

[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 month ago

You are about to see insanely desperate stuff from Democrats. Expect fake AI generated crap about Trump coming soon. Stay focused AND VOTE!

-Charlie Kirk

Hasn't even seen the video, but already dismissing it as AI. Anything that the right doesn't like is fake.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It never happened.

It's AI.

She lied about her age.

Everyone would have done the same.

Actually pedophilia is OK now.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Mrrrmmm, ACKchyually, she's over 15 so it's EPHEBOphilia. They're two very different things, thank you very much.

/s, kiddie diddling is kiddie diddling.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

kiddie diddling is kiddie diddling.

Absolutely 100%. Taking advantage of a minor is wrong no matter what.

However, the word you used describes an attraction, not actual rape. And in that case there is a big difference because being attracted to mid to late teens, which is a perfect normal and healthy sexual attraction, and pedophilia, which is a disorder. This is the same science that confirms homosexuality and trans identity are perfectly normal, and rejecting this science is no different than rejecting that people can be gay and trans.

I know I'll be piled on because of the pedophile panic that has gripped so many people, but I don't care because I think it's important for people to understand this. After watching the suffering of gay and trans people, first hand, being treated like deviants or that there is something wrong with them I can't stand by while people treat other normal and healthy people as if they are fucked up. It's not right.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

No no no no. The last one isn't true.

The rich can do whatever they please, that's their right for being rich (/s).

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Why would they tease it and not release it? Where does this claim even come from? The article just says the sources are "Several social media users, including commentators and reporters". Then it seems like all the people tweeting about it are right wingers. I'm suspicious. Could be a distraction from the more credible stories about Trump loving Hitler and shitting on a slain soldier for having an expensive funeral for a Mexican.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

It would be a wild choice for a distraction. The rumors claim that the person with the video is shopping it around. They want a payday before they give the video to anyone. Sadly, that means that a deep-pocketed Trump ally could do a catch and kill and never release it.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (21 children)

As someone who had to sit through a seemingly unending stream of videos of Biden sniffing hair etc, none of which were as damning as the people boosting them claimed, I really hope they either don't release this, or it actually is what it claims to be, not some similar crap.

"Donald Trump loses his balance and accidentally makes contact with a girl's butt" or similar ambiguous clip is probably not going to do anything except make me have to start ignoring videos of Biden sniffing hair again when magas start posting them in retaliation or whatever.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (4 children)

His sycophants forgive any crime he commits. They will blame the minor not him.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Riley: Oh, yes, the victim! At what point does personal responsibility become a factor in this equation?

Dubois: I don't think that's--

Riley: I see piss coming, I move.

Huey: mmm

Riley: She saw piss coming, she stayed.

Dubois: Yes, she did, but--

Riley: And why should I have to miss out on the next R. Kelly album! Just for that?!

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago

They didn't care when Jeffrey Epstein hooked Don up with a 13-year-old at his private minor rape party. Why would they care about a boob grab?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This could actually get him more votes. After all, the GOP is the Party of Pedophila.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

They're the party of "PEDOPHILES SHOULD BE KILLED, DEAD PEDOPHILES CAN'T REOFFEND, I HUNT PEDOPHILES, AND IT'S TOTALLY NORMAL AND NOT PROJECTION THAT I'VE MADE THIS MY ENTIRE IDENTITY." Which is effectively the same thing but is slightly different.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (11 children)

This is just conspiratorial garbage. That article is garbage. I would love for something like this to take him down, but if you think this has any credibility, please realize that your ability to critically analyze new information is ridiculously clouded by confirmation bias.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He could eat then punt a baby on video and maga cultist wouldn't care.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, it makes no logical sense in this physical realm... and they still won't question it

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago

If they want evidence of Trump abusing minors there is an Epstein case they might want to mention.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He's bragged about doing it before. I don't see how this would affect his popularity.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

This fascist POS was literally found to be a credible sexual abuser and it did nothing.

This too, if proven true, will also do nothing because Republicans endorse this type of behavior.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (3 children)

timesnownews? lol cmon guys

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'd like to see the video first. Claims of a video are pretty meaningless. It's a lot like saying you have a concept of a plan.

Nevertheless, I hope it's not fucking true, because if it is true, that means some poor woman was victimized, will probably never get to see any justice because the legal system refuses to hold Trump accountable for anything, and it won't move the needle an inch in terms of the blind deference Republicans give to Trump.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Child. Some poor child was sexually assaulted. We need to collectively stop with the mitigating language thing. We're not the fucking news media.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I can all but guarantee that this won’t sway a single one of his voters. In fact, watch that this doesn’t get him even more support. They love circling the wagons when their beloved king is in trouble.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This is being pushed as the October surprise on X. The MAGA Cult is so far gone I don't think much will change their mind at this time. "It was Gods will he groped her."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

this is the party that wants to let rapists choose their baby mommas

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

The stupid incels will vote for this fucker even harder now.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Like this is going to be the thing that turns off the Maga'ts.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

He’s the Groper in Chief.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

B O M B S H E L L

right up there with S L A M M E D

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

The guy would walk in the dressing room of the Miss TEEN USA pageant, that he owned, while they were changing. Of course he’s groped minors. Unfortunately, there won’t be a video of this happening. Guaranteed.

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