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[–] [email protected] 257 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (29 children)

Stein wasn't even the only third party candidate stealing votes. I voted for Gary Johnson with the Libertarian party as a "protest vote". Glancing at national results, he had almost three times as many votes as Stein did.

I was 100% the moron this meme is targeted towards. I voted for Harris yesterday.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 2 months ago (3 children)

But you aren’t a moron if you learned from your mistakes. It means the opposite.

I wish we had ranked choice voting. Then these protest votes would still work and not screw with the system so bad and we could fight the stranglehold of the two party system.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 months ago

Hey good on you for being open to change your stance. So many people these days cant.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago

I was that moron too in 2016.

Never again.

[–] dream_weasel 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Thanks, bro. Legit appreciate it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Me too Stein in 2016. I was so mad at Clinton for what they did to Sanders. I am voting Harris as soon as voting is open here.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bernie deserved so much better, and I fucking hate the way the 2016 democrats fucked him over.

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 2 months ago (9 children)

a vote for stein is a vote for trump, both of which are a vote for poo-tin

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

Best Putin Pronunciation Award Goes To..

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Also, the 2000 Presidential election results in Florida:

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago

Ah yes, the true stolen election. But Al Gore conceded, even though it really was too close to call.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

the electoral votes column juxtaposed with the other columns is just documenting what should be a crime.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I didn't actually realize the numbers were that high for her... Ffs.

They know what they're doing. The elections in swing states are always down to razor margins. The right spoiler is almost a guaranteed win for the opponent :/

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

/* in countries with a broken democracy

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I voted for Harris yesterday, and I’ll be voting for Harris again tomorrow. Just kidding. Turns out the dead person whose identity I stole wasn’t registered to vote. 😞

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You make jokes, but tomorrow this comment will be on FOX as proof them libs are cheating...

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago (11 children)

I might risk voting 3rd party if this election wasn't a choice between boring corporatists and 100% concentrated evil.

The stakes are just too damn high to risk letting Trump get back into the White House again.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Ranked choice voting eliminates the concept of spoiler candidates/parties.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If this were true then American politics really are terrible. Minority should hold seats. America needs to revisit representation.

[–] prettybunnys 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s actually not entirely true, it only counts stein as the only 3rd party (the libertarian candidate in PA got 3x as many votes as her, I’d bet those 3rd party votes wouldn’t have gone to Clinton) AND doesn’t report factual numbers.

It’s just not true.

That said unfortunately voting for a 3rd party candidate is largely useless in the USA and the forces trying to get their opponents voters to vote 3rd party are probably more overwhelming then the forces actually compelling folks to vote 3rd party.

FPTP needs to die in the USA.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago

Support ranked choice voting

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I don't understand why people make such a big deal out of these voters. Maybe I'm just consuming the wrong media, but it feels like third-party voters get 50x the blame nonvoters get for ruining elections with probably something like a thousandth of the population. I basically never see this discussion call out both third-party voters and nonvoters equally.

I keep seeing third-party voters maligned for thinking a candidate has hope to win a national election, I see so many arguments to address why third-party candidates can't win. In spite of that, I have never come across any community anywhere where people collectively believe these candidates actually have a chance. People who consume crazy media can believe crazy things, that's why MAGA is a thing, but there's a whole Fox News etc media machine feeding those people. Is there a forum somewhere with more than ten people where there's a consensus that a third-party candidate might actually win? None of the third party voters I have known or met irl believed this, and I would be shocked if they're all weird exceptions.

Like, please, where are these people congregating to spread the ludicrous idea that a third-party candidate can win a national election? Looking on the recent green party posts on their subreddits, the only thing I see even close is a thread with a headline about "candidates are electable if people vote for them", where the furthest they go in the comments is a few people talking about how big a deal it would be for the party if they got 5% nationally, and a couple other people replying to say the greens won't even get 1% this year but the election is still very important because of some nonsense about incremental gains.

It feels like we've imagined a brainwashing machine that does not exist in reality, rather than admit to the existence of protest votes. Condemning protest votes means condemning protest nonvotes equally, and we'll never have sufficient information about protest nonvoters to reasonably make a claim about how they would have voted. That would severely muddy any attempts to assign blame for election results.

If you're trying to convince these voters to act differently, the way to do that would be to address the arguments they're actually making, like the incremental gains nonsense. If you're addressing arguments they haven't been making at all, then it's worth asking whether you're trying to convince someone other than them.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (8 children)

America's system is a problem.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (19 children)

That makes an assumption that all or a big majority third party voters would prefer Harris over Trump.

Just for clarifying the logic here.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (22 children)

People get weird close to the election.

People voting green party did so for a reason. Not everyone fits into perfectly shaped boxes for the 2 party system. Many vote 3rd party for leverage for policy change. The narrative of picking the lesser evil doesn't always apply to the narrative of the individual voter.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

So early voting has started in some states. Get out and vote people

[–] Lightrider 25 points 2 months ago

A broken system gives you broken candidates.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Democrats who are actually concerned about Republicans should be pushing hard for ranked choice voting.

These memes make Democrats feel good, but only annoys third party voters.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to dress up as third party voting for Halloween

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't you think clowns are a little overdone?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

These numbers are ~~not~~ correct according to NY Times

Edit: I can’t math

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