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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm actually not sure I understand this one... sounds more like they're just having a conversation with their reactionary neighbor and trying to speak from a perspective they think they would understand?

I guess maybe I'm confused about what makes this person a tankie, and what makes this conversation bizzar? Is it just that they're having an intentional conversation about politics, or..?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Actually that person seemed to have handled this in a remarkably mature, restrained, and polite fashion. They were somewhat open-minded that their neighbor could be a decent person, if not a bit presumptuous and naive at first seeing the Trump sign.

It's a bit bizarre seeing someone talk to a conservative for the first time, but honestly... this kind of approach would make a great model for how leftist should generally approach conservatives. This is in a whole different class of good compared to a lot of the bullshit they (and yall) say online.

Kudos to them, shame on the shamers.

[–] Tar_alcaran 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is so weird, because I can imagine both the "my neighbor is a tankie" side of the conversation and the "my neighbor is a magat" side. And they both fucking suck, and I don't know who to feel worse for..

[–] goat 3 points 1 month ago

the state of american discourse?

[–] goat 6 points 1 month ago

Honestly that’s pretty exciting and I’ve never made that kinda progress with anybody! Personally, I would mix ideological progress with becoming friends outside of politics, since there was once someone very special to me whom I tried to convert, going too far without making much personal progress (also me doing some weird things I’m not too proud of), and it ended badly.

At least they're honest with their cult

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Babby's first conversation with a conservative, it would seem.

[–] ZombiFrancis 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's amazing how much conservatism relies on there not being that first conversation to begin with. Seems like a win at best or a wash at worst.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you spoken to many conservatives?

[–] ZombiFrancis 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Was my job working for a rural health department from 2016-2018.

Went to a less rural health dept from 2018-2023 and still ended up dealing with all the conservatives outside city limits anyway.

So yes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not sure how you got the idea that the 'first conversation' is what's missing, then.

[–] ZombiFrancis 1 points 1 month ago

Just that there tends to be significant lack of interaction with outgroups there. All I was noting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Calling information, that you want to convey, propaganda from the start is quite telling.