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Sceenshot showing youtube premium family plan price increased from SGD17.98 to SGD27.98

Cant believe they are increasing the prices this much in one go, gonna be going back to adblockers.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm surprised more people aren't using uBlock Origin. It's an absolute necessity for browsing the web anymore.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I barely ever use PC for browsing web anymore.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's available for mobile as well. You find it in the extension manager

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

For which mobile and what extensions manager?

I'm blocking ads phone-wide, I just don't use uBlock Origin for that on the phone.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Firefox for Android has uBlock Origin (and lots of other useful extensions). You do need to set Firefox as the default app for YouTube links, but after that it works perfectly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I use NewPipe for Youtube, there are no ads at all.

I use AdGuard for blocking ads phone-wide and if I hadn't, Vivaldi has a built-in adblocker too.

Bottom line is I don't see any ads without using uBlock Origin. Original commenter is "surprised more people aren't using" it like it's the only way to go, while in reality it usable only in certain scenarios. It's best for PC but not for mobile.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Firefox, mull, fennec, etc

[–] maccentric 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Orion on iOS has some support for FF extensions—Ublock seems to work more or less

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

firefox exists on mobile too

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Firefox on android supports addons, so you can install uBlock on it too. If you use an apple device, you are limited to DNS based ad blocking, which doesn't help with youtube.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I honestly think it' seven more important to have an adblock on a phone.

The amount of pages that on mobile are an advert covering the top half, and a give us your data prompt at the bottom seems to be nearly everything these days. At least on a monitor there's room for the content.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's so nice to live in the EU, where my right to block ads is protected by law.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's more so that you are allowed to try to block ads. If YouTube adds DRM or otherwise manages to stop usage of ad blocking, they are completely in their right to do so.

IIRC if something runs on your system, you have the right to mess with it, however you want — e.g. block specific parts of the site, or use reader mode etc.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

If youtube does that, I will stop using the site and wait for a workaround to be written. You could preload the videos and cut out the ads, for example.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I have YouTube Premium though not the Family variant and Google won't just fix their app. It is way behind NewPipe or YouTube ReVanced. No, I don't need shorts. No I don't need constant nudges to join groups of YouTubers by paying after I just paid you money, Google!

What I want is system wide quality setting (what exactly does High or Data Saver mean; would it kill you to give 480p, 720p or 1080p as options) or Sponserblock integration (okay, this thing is probably never gonna happen but still). YouTube 's app is a stinking pile of shit. I just use YouTube Music from them and will cancel/not renew my plan after it lapses.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

It's funny, because sponsorblock and vanced only exist because of youtube's greed. And now I can't imagine using their service without them, even if they rollback the annoying ads. And they can't implement them. It's really the problem they made for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not a premium user but Youtube has poisoned its own waters with its algorithm. You can see the "top" content basically gaming that algorithm as well as it can. Literally every part of it from the title to the thumbnail to the content itself is hollow except for the skinner box.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

they don't call it engagement slop for no reason.

[–] where_am_i 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

unpopular opinion: you can pay for premium and use Vanced/ReVanced because you value hosting infrastructure provided, and you understand that most of your money goes to the creators not google. And yet you still want control over the UI.

And you know what. If everyone actually did that instead of using Vanced for adblocking, it maybe still would've been alive.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Wait, people pay for that?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (10 children)

As I said in a previous post, people are afraid of pirating, so they prefer higher prices if it is a "safe" method.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

I wouldn't call it pirating... More like... I receive the video, but the ads were unfortunately lost on the way....

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

bootlickers love theirs chains, they won' be saved but younger folk have a chance to break the cycle of abuse

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sadly a lot of young people are taught nothing but convenience and ignorance. I'm the only one in any of my friend circles that says anything against these practices. All of my friends, from different walks of life just shrug me off.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Well maybe next generation then... Or maybe we are destitined to be enslaved due to herd mentality.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I pay for that, because YouTube and YouTube Music is the main source of media for me And my family and I have no issue with paying for a service that I use a lot. And paying for that is so much easier then investing huge amounts of time into searching for and maintaining alternative Players and Tools for all the different devices where I (and my family) consume YouTube and YouTube Music. My limited time is more valuable for me then the price for the service.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I can understand if you want to pay. But don't say it's hard to block ads when all you need is uBlock origin installed... And that's it. It's literally a 15 seconds job for the rest of the life of your browser.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Remember that many people they don't consume YouTube primarily in a browser

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

and once you are on 4k teevee, i see no issue paying for that quality.

i have an issue with being data mined while paying tho...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (6 children)

And how do I install uBlock origin into my living room television? How into the YouTube app on my Chromecast? Sure I could use Firefox on that but that will break any chance of sending YouTube videos from a phone to the Chromecast, so not really a valid option. How into the PS5? How install it into any kind of mobile apple device? How into all kinds of mobile YouTube music applications? Yes, it is easy when the only way to consume YouTube is via Webbrowser and even that gets more and more complicated whenever google changes something to block ad blockers.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I pay for yt family premium and Netflix but use neither of them on a regular basis.

My nephews grew up with a pretty shitty life. They don't have a lot of fun things they can do in their situation. I figured the least I could do is give them YouTube music and some access to watch TV and movies on Netflix wherever they happen to be.

It's the same reason my steam family is chock full of games I'll never play.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (5 children)

A LOT of people pay for that. I was flabbergasted as well. Why would you pay for a free service? This feels like buying premium bottled tap water and they don't even bother to filter out the chlorine and the heavy metals.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

People buy diet water, so i don't think there is a limit to what people buy

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Why would you pay for a free service?

If it were a charity or non-profit that would be one thing. Google is doing fine without your support though.

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[–] otp 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I pay for YouTube premium because I like the idea of content creators getting paid when I watch their videos. I don't want to manually send each of them money or sign up for their channel memberships or anything. But if they make videos that I watch and they get a kickback? I'm fine with that.

I also have a YouTube channel that bring in a bit of beer money, so I use that to justify the cost.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's like the cost of one banana

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There is always money in the banana stand.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Well, once again they still hurt more the "legal" clients, nothing new really.

I still happily have my ad-less YT experience in all the devices I own (as a matter of fact, I just convinced my girlfriend to sideload a YT client to get her a similar experience of mine in her iPhone).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (5 children)

To be fair, this does add more to the pot for YouTube creators.

If you're a YouTube Premium member, you won't see ads, so we share your monthly membership fee with creators. Best of all, the more videos you watch from your favorite creators, the more money they make.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'd rather just spend a fraction of the money on a Nebula subscription.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

So this has been true of YouTube Red since the beginning. It's one if the reasons I got it. But they use watch time as the way to divide your money out. It actually makes it extremely unfair split for people that make great but short content. It's also why longer content became more popular around that time and those 24/7 streams run like that.

Also why creators started doing channels of just padded run time content of like building legos and eating things. It's to secure better and funding.

The current setup is pretty busted and feels like the wheels are coming off again.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

And of course this happened inline with the ads on pause so its either you pay us a fuck ton of money per month or suffer from advertisements thank god for ublock origin and firefox

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Didn't even know Youtube premium was still a thing. Been too busy using FreeTube, NewPipe, and SmartTube to notice

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Worst and worst...

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