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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Excellent!

Any undiscovered cave entrances from the surfaced part?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

Worldbuilding enthusiasts start heavy breathing

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Zealandia shall rise again!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago

With rising sea levels it might end up as No Zealand

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Here's me hoping the next cataclysm drains the oceans by a few hundred feet so we can establish New Old Zealand 🇳🇿

[–] Qwaffle_waffle 3 points 4 hours ago

Hear ye Nozzies!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's in Frisia/whatever fake country controls it for now

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeland

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Friesland is a province, smh

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (6 children)

If submerged land can be called continents, where's the line between what is and isn't a continent?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Geographical continents and geological continents aren't quite the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

That Civilization 6 uses geological continents when the 'continent' key word is used where every other game in the series uses geographical continents for that key word still bugs me.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago

I think the reason Zealandia is called a "submerged continent" is because it is made of continental crust rather than oceanic crust.

But IMO the best geologic definition of continents is by tectonic plates, which mostly matches up with the cultural definitions of the continents.

For the major continents, we have these plates:

  • North American
  • South American
  • Eurasian
  • African
  • Australian
  • Antarctic

There are several smaller plates too, like the Caribbean, Indian, and Arabian plates. IMO, we should consider these independent continents.

There is also a dedicated Pacific plate. The ring of fire is the border of this plate.

New Zealand / Zealandia is on the ring of fire. Half on the Australian plate, half on the Pacific plate. You can actually see the border of the two plates when you look at the topographical map of Zealandia.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oceanic crust is heavier, denser, and composed of different rocks than continental crust.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

It's just this, just simple geology.

The water level is actually irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The OP states it was part of Gondwana, maybe that's what makes it different.

If you click through to the microcontinent link that seems to support the idea of microcontinents being pieces broken off a bigger one. But with everything coming from Gondwana then that means all the existing ones are fragments, and the only reason other fragments aren't considered continents is size (e.g. Madigascar).

Zealandia seems to be the Pluto of continents. Too small to be a continent but much larger than the largest microcontinent.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's why there are a lot of cool dinosaurs found only in New Zealand btw

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I live in New Zealand and haven't found any dinosaurs. I think they all died.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Nope, they're all around you and me and everyone else. They just evolved into things that (usually) have wings. In terms of phylogeny, they're dinosaurs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

Well, maybe in theory. NZ has many unique birds not found anywhere else, but they are generally threatened or endangered. If you want to see them in the wild, generally you have to go to a very specific location.

If I look outside, almost certainly all I'll see are European dinosaurs.

So maybe I should correct my statement to say they almost all died out.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did you check the other island? There's lots man

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That's a debate that transcends culture. Some cultures say there are seven, some say six, and yet others say five.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So NZ is technically a mountaintop. Cool!

[–] iAmTheTot 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

All land above water is a mountain top, at a certain scale.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And all continents are islands at a certain scale.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Slightly off topic, but this film can be enjoyed as:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, yes. That's how I originally saw it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I originally saw the unriffed version and I still really like it. It sucks that Universal executives made them chop down the movie to shorter than the length of a TV episode (along with all the other stupid changes they forced). It makes it look like a much worse movie than it actually is. Not that it is a bad movie for MST3K, just that it was made unnecessarily much worse than it actually was, which was about what you could expect for "good" 1950s sci-fi.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

wtf it looks like a fat New Zealand. is there an even slimmer version inside NZ?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Isn't it called Oceania? Or are they different?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oceania tends to refer to the region, including both Australia, New Zealand, Melanesia, Micronesia, and the many small island nations.

Sometimes, we are "collectivly" treated as a continent, despite being almost all island nations with no land boarders.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Well we don’t call you landiania

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mannnnnn, I wanna live on a billion year old, largely submerged continent. Shit looks dope af. And they seemed to kind win at Pandemic. Great share, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Just give it a few years. The continent you are currently on will be largely submerged soon enough.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

All this time we've been keeping our true power hidden.

Also, if you mention Zealandia in New Zealand, people will look at you blankly and say "The bird sanctuary?"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wait until you hear about Doggerland.

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