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If they're trying to attack all of Lemmy, or the whole Fediverse, they're doing it wrong. lol

It's like obvious spam emails that put no effort into appearing legitimate. You have the spirit of it, but your heart is in the wrong place.

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Because of the unfortunate centralisation that's happened, with so many people being directed to lemmy.world or choosing to go there, a big DDoS attack on world would disrupt a lot of communities that people on other instances use. It's in everyone's interests to spread the load more, which is why I find it sad when some communities migrate to world. UnixPorn was one, although it was already on lemmy.ml which is a larger instance too

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I made a kbin before I made a lemmy account. So when one stops working, switch to the other. Although I do like the apps for lemmy much more (sync).

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Could also just make a Lemmy account on another instance?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, there's so many communities on world that even if you're on another instance, a good chunk of content just isn't available.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't the communities work even while the instance is down?

I suppose modding them while down would be an issue

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

How do you imagine them working if their home instance is down? You can only see the cache of old posts and your comments won't propagate outside your own instance. If LW is down, everything on LW is down effectively.

ActivityPub is an email inspired P2P-like protocol. Running communities over it is a hack.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Not in the way you think. Yes, you can still comment and post in your own instances version, but for other instances to see it it'll have to go through lemmy.world first and forwarded on. I think it's a bit murky when it comes to comment replies, though, I believe those do get propagated directly to the instance originating the comment (i.e. if a beehaw.org person comments and you reply, they get it sent directly), but you can see how disruptive it is.

[–] Meowoem 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it would be really interesting if it was possible to have a merged community across several instances, like you sub to super community and it gets the information from one of the linked instances and when they're up they all keep synchronised.

If your instance went down you couldn't log on but if you could switch to another account on a different instance and access the same major communities - then when that instance comes back it catches up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

@Meowoem @kd637_mi Better yet...

Many Lemmy instances have communities on the same topic. For example, there's @[email protected] and @[email protected] and @[email protected] .

It's unnecessary duplication.

Having a Fediverse-wide !Technology community would avoid a lot of duplication.

Each Lemmy instance would then responsible for the posts of its users, and if an instance fails to moderate appropriately, it gets defederated.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On the bright side, it makes people go to other instances instead of centralizing most the lemmy users on one big one

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Yep, living this one myself today!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think the bigger issue is many of the apps that are coming out (which imo would be the main point of entry for less techy users) point to lemmy.world as the default instance.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The lemmy network spreads out and gets better the more it is attacked. Perfectly antifragile

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh that's why it keeps going down?! Lol what a dumb waste of time and effort.

I'm happy on .world and don't mind finding something else to do when it's down.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The hilarious part is they are probably paying to use some ddos service too.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure they only have beef with Lemmy.World for being banned from it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

That or they're running an instance and want people to leave here and join theirs. Would make sense for someone who wants to manipulate content and people, crush the popular instance and you're more likely to inherit those users.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I see a lot of people sticking to one instance. I try to use different ones to mix it up. Yes it’s annoying losing your subscriptions but every instance has a different vibe and community which I like

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Using my own instance I guess if it's getting ddos'd I know someone's mad at me specifically lol

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There are scripts that let you import your subscriptions from other accounts.

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[–] schnex 2 points 1 year ago

Hmm I wonder why a client like sync doesn't just create multiple accounts with the same name automatically and syncs (lol) the subscriptions. If one instance is down, switch to another instantly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] agamemnonymous 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those spam emails are obvious on purpose, so that all their responses are from the most gullible idiots.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Spam calls and interactive emails are, but phishing emails have nothing to lose from better design since they’re just collecting data. Some of them are actually pretty well done, to their credit.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

They don't have a script for that.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

The power of decentralization.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it might be someone with a grudge.....

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

It is, or at least partially... From what I understand a user(Lmao/Angled) was "sub-lemmy camping" (took up thousands of popular sub names and wasn't doing anything with them) so lemmy world banned him from that instance. He had a hissy fit and "vowed revenge" and has been attempting to do as much damage to .world as he/they could since. I can't find the original post but https://old.lemmy.world/post/943832 and https://old.lemmy.world/post/1720870 has a bit of detail.

Edit: added some info

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Imagine spending so much time doing something as pointless as that and spending even more time (and maybe money) throwing a hissy fit when things don’t go your way.

[–] anowhere 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah, unfortunately that egotistic extreme response is prevalent and encouraged in current affairs.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Wow what a complete loser. Reddit mod behavior

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

If this is accurate it's particularly funny in light of the fact that every instance can have a community of a given name. It's not taken for every instance once one instance makes a community of a particular name, haha.

[–] pomodoro_longbreak 6 points 1 year ago

Oh that's juicy. It's like arch nemesis type stuff

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

From what I heard, the Lemmy.world ddoser got banned from the instance that's why they ddosing it

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Petty person doing petty things Just go forth and create communities across the instances SDF is pretty nice and has recently spun up a hand full of regional Lemmy instances

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

fediverse goals

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lemmy...world? Huh. I never saw an instance like that. shrug-outta-hecks

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I think the issue more ppl see with this is the communities there are now down also, not just not being able to login.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No worries, they're just being considerate by "preemptively saving" all hexbears from the inconvenience of experiencing constant outage every day.

shrug-outta-hecks

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"ah yes let me just publicly announce how they can hurt us more, that seems like a good idea"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Can we consider this an open and obvious secret? They're DDoSing that instance not because they think it'll take everyone down, but because it'll take down the most number of people with the least amount of effort.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I usually just switch to sh.itjust.works but I've been looking at Kbin.social too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have cookies and the ability to block entire instances.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My favorite part about oatmeal raisin cookies is that everyone else avoids them. So I eat the others first the same time everyone else is eating them, then I get an entire sleeve of oatmeal raisin to myself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The only time oatmeal raisin is bad is when you're expecting chocolate chip, and even then, its still good.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Someone demolished the gingersnaps but there should still be a plate of chocolate chip and persistent HTTP floating around.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

it's the muskrats. They're not too bright.

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