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I pay for apple music, but all the linux clients seem to just be webapps which support 256AAC at most. Any way to maybe automatically download my library as flac and keep it locally (legal or not idc)

cant move services as every other service sucks (yes i have tried them all (tidal, spotify, qobuzz, deezer)

thank you all

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The easiest way to get lossless music is to buy a CD and rip it. Of course you can always sail the high seas too. 🏴‍☠️

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

That's still too lossey. I prefer to hire the band to follow me around for the day. It's the only true way.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

sailing the high seas is great, thats why i said legal or not. however, i dont know of a way to automatically get my am library and download it through something like nicotine

last time i did it was a very manual process

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Soundiiz -> last.fm or spotify playlist -> Newsbin or torrent + lidarr

[–] Rekorse 1 points 3 months ago

Convert from apple to another music product and then automate that?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

bandcamp is great! you can just pay and download music in whatever format (flac, wav, mp3), no questions asked.

They don't have the Taylor Swifts of the world, but most indy bands and artists are on there, which is good enough for me.

For classical music, there is presto music, but their download experience is not as straight forward as bandcamp IMO.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Also, yesterday was Bandcamp Friday (they forgoe their cut and everything goes to the artist). The next two are Oct 4th and Dec 6th.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

yeah no I listen to mostly bigger names

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Then if you care about the artists being compensated fairly, you can CD+rip; if not, streamrip/torrent will produce a lot less waste and much more convenient.

TBH most big names are millionaires anyway, I probably would care much more about my convenience than them getting paid 5 bucks for all my troubles.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I support the artists I love by seeing them love and buying their merch, pays them far more than a few streams would anyways

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have similar thoughts. I use bandcamp for smaller artists but I would recommend nicotine+ on Linux

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

yeah I used nicotine in the past, but lidarr seems better

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I don't care about the profits of big artists and i refuse rental/streaming, so if they have their own site or i can find them elsewhere, fine, otherwise it's the high seas. HDtracks has some big names.

For smaller bands there's bandcamp. Is sellaband still a thing?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

HDtracks is a bit more commercial and FLAC friendly.

[–] illectrility 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

nicotine+ is a nice soulseek interface.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

This is the only true answer here. Answers like Bandcamp (which hardly has a repository big enough) or switching to Tidal aren't practical. OP paid for his music, and deserves access to it.

I have Amazon Prime as part of Prime Unlimited but holy Christ, have I never gotten their web app to stream in Linux. As long as greediness on part of these lousy corporations live on, piracy would remain the only true option.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

I know you said you don't want to switch, but I was in a similar situation, switched to Qobuz, installed qobuz-dl and navidrome, and now Qobuz is just an input for my self-hosted streaming service.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Can't help you there, I buy CDs and lossless copies from Bandcamp and Qobuz. Those work for me.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I know you said no service change but I use this Tidal client which works really well and goes up to 24-bit 192 kHz: https://github.com/Mastermindzh/tidal-hifi

I also download FLACs from Tidal, Deezer or Qobuz. You can find downloaders for them very easily.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

tidal has the most atrocious android app I have seen in my life

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If you can download music, you can either host your own using navidrome, or just use a local player like auxio.

The only downside to this approach is that the artists you like might not get compensated fairly, as most streaming service pay by stream times. This is also why I prefer buying music than streaming.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

IIRC, one can integrate Tidal with music players like Strawberry on nix too, I think.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is there anything like this for Android that you're aware of? That would be awesome.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you mean for downloading or for streaming? I use the normal Tidal app which already does the highest quality. Not the best app in the world but it does the job and I mostly listen to downloaded music anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I'm sorry, I should have been clearer. Yes, I meant for streaming. I also have all my favorite music downloaded and play them locally (sort of, self-hosted from my home server). But way back when I was part of the Spotify crowd I came across great songs I didn't know about, so streaming is a great way to find those hidden jewels. I just don't want to have any of those apps trying to mine a boatload of data constantly from my devices.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

cant move services as every other service sucks

What are your requirements?

I use Tidal and I know High/Max quality works in the web UI, just needs widevine support.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

spotify doesnt have lossless, deezers app is really slow, tidals is janky and slow, qobuzz was missing 20% of my library (though maybe ill check again, they used a different service for transfers)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Check out some of the *ARR apps like Lidarr and pair it with something like sabnzbd or ~~ubittorrent~~ qbittorrent

[–] steersman2484 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yep! My bad. Lemme edit that lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

oh I love piracy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I don't mind. I support the artists I love by seeing them live and buying merch, pays them way more than a few streams anyways

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

from OP's post:

"legal or not idc"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I don't think it works with Apple, but I really like Streamrip. It works with Qobuz, Tidal, Deezer and SoundCloud. Just adding it to the list of recommendations.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Wine/bottles? I do use qobuz in a bottle and get hd audio out to my dac.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don't think the Apple Music Windows app does lossless or hi-res either

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Man, it sounds like if HD is your requirement, Apple really might not be the best.

Short of an Android emulator, it sounds like they don't want it out of their ecosystem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

That is true. Waydroid might work. No idea if you can get lossless through that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

If it does now, that might be an option. It didn't when I got rid of Apple music.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

the qobuz webapp is hi-res too, I just use it in Firefox and my dac reports the same bit/sample rate that qobuz does. AFAIK there's no compression there though I haven't extensively verified that, only that the end result is 24bit/192kHz if that's what qobuz says is playing.

EDIT: Also, qobuz is nice because there's very few things you can click on in the web interface which cause the music to stop playing. I really appreciate that feature.... looking at you bandcamp....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I'm too likely to close a web browser. plus I keep getting logged out. But I did notice that too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago
[–] pastermil 2 points 3 months ago

Pretty much the same way you do on Windows & Mac.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

How many albums you plan to downloads that require automation? I downloaded mine off of various torrent sites (about 300+ songs) and I still haven't listened to all of them yet