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[–] [email protected] 105 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Leemurs provoke centipedes to make them excrete their defensive toxin, but then the lemurs just use that toxin to get high and repel mosquitos.

[–] maccentric 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The word just is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

Get high and repel mosquitos?

Sign me up!

[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And there are monkeys that steal drinks from beach resorts.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's really interesting is that study was made and the distribution of social drinkers, nice drunks, mean drunks, etc, roughly matches that of the humans.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I mean it's not really that surprising. We are pretty similar to apes (and maybe monkeys?) socially.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And dolphins like to kick puffer fish around to get high

[–] [email protected] 111 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is only a reenactment

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

First time I laughed out loud today. Thanks! 😀

[–] FreshLight 14 points 2 months ago

Thanks for clarifying. At first I mistook it for a photograph.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Puff, puff, pass.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Jaguars actually eat the leaves of b. capii, which acts as a MAOI in the Ayahuasca brew.

While there is some discussion that the harmala alkaloids in b. capii might also be slightly psychoactive in high doses, the actual main compound in Ayahuasca is DMT, which is certainly very psychoactive, but not bioavailable when consumed orally without a MAOI. Unless the jaguars have figured out how to combine the two and/or brew ayahuasca, I strongly doubt that's their intention and that they'd get comparable effects.

I think the idea stems from the BBC show Weird Nature showing a jaguar eating yage leaves in episode 6, "Peculiar Potions".

I'm not really sold on how well that content was researched.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

B. caapi is called ayahuasca, as well as being an ingredient in the brew with the same name, so the image is not technically wrong.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sure. In my opinion, however, the overall context of the image does imply the jaguar enjoys similar effects to those clearly requiring the presence of DMT, as that is what is most people commonly associate with ayahuasca.

It's a bit of a "look at all those animals getting high, this jaguar is even talking to machine elves in the 19th dimension" kinda thing, where - if I remember correctly - they actually consume the leaves for digestive purposes.

Again, the leaves do have an effect, e. g. they apparently act as an SSRI (that's how common antidepressants work) and we can't be absolutely sure about their effect on cats (catnip certainly has some effect on cats we don't readily enjoy), so I can't dismiss the notion of jaguars seeking them out for that reason as well.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

The mental images of the consequences of running into, and then having to fight, a jaguar who’s high on ayahuasca is both hilarious and terrifying.

„Bro, chill out! The strawberry fractals are a mere figment of your imagination and can’t hurt you.“

„CHRAOW! CHRAOWOW!! Satayskewers!“

[–] akwd169 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Came here for this, I was looking forward to having a Jaguar shaman for my aya ceremony but I guess that's off now

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I remember reading that the Sami people used to drink the piss of a reindeer that had eaten fly agaric/fly amanita mushrooms since even though they're poisonous, most of the poison gets left in the reindeer while the nice hallucinogenic stuff passes through. Wikipedia put it a bit differently:

Patrick Harding describes the Sami custom of processing the fly agaric through reindeer.

Processing does sound nicer.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago

"Ualabis"? Is that supposed to be "wallabies"?

As best I can tell from searching, that's kind of the Spanish word for "wallabies" (translate gives "ualabies"). Seems like a weird choice.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What? No way bats can fly under influence! They are not above the law.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Why is he running, Dad?

Because we have to chase him

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bees also get drunk. If they try to enter the hive while drunk, they get kicked out to sober up

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

From what I read they don't only get kicked out but absolutely mutilated by ripping their limbs off

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Whoa jeez, that wasn't in the documentary I saw but I do see on YT that it happens. Jeez

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Meanwhile the Siberian Nomad off to the side waiting for whichever reindeer that gets the shrooms to take a piss 👁️👄👁️

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

I am not sure if I am scared of a high jaguar or want to pet it. Maybe both?

Jaguar to his buddy: "Dude, I was so baked I let a hairless monkey pet me. I got the munchies though, so I ate him."

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Apparently the Spanish translate Wallaby. TIL

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I thought it may have been a more accurate and respectful transcription of the First Nations language the word came from, as opposed to the simplified colonial-era anglicisations, though it being Spanish orthography makes sense.

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[–] southsamurai 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Humans: hold me beer, joint, shrooms, cactus, and chemistry set

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I bet other animals would do the same if they weren't getting high all the time and could figure it out for themselves.

[–] southsamurai 2 points 2 months ago

Oh, heck yeah!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is documentary video of animals on the savannah eating fermented marula is great

https://youtu.be/AIDJ-sTuoO8

the hung over warthog is so relateable!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

There’s an urban legend that koalas spend their entire lives drunk because the eucalyptus leaves they subsist on ferment inside them, though maybe that’s just because they look a bit dopey.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Is there a reason we haven't tried this narcotic fungi?

Shrooms are great, why not try other 'gi?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Humans actually do, but they do it by drinking the reindeer piss after the reindeer have eaten it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I imagine it's either there's a chemical in the new fungi that specifically makes the rams high but not us or there is something in there that doesn't affect them but is toxic to us

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Amarula logo. Not a bad liquor at all.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

And wasps! They get drunk and aggressive in years with lots of overripe fruits.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

the fuck is a ualabi.

(Bad example if they mean wallaby, opium is an invasive species and they only eat it out of desperation. A better one would be the chronically addled eucalyptic meth head that is the koala)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What about the birds that get drunk off of fermented cherries and smash into a stuff? We need to do something about these FWIs or nobody will be safe.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

[off topic]

Some believe that beer was the trigger to the change from hunter/gatherer to agricultural society.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/history-of-beer

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

There's also a stoned ape theory about the cognitive evolution of human consciousness through consumption of psilocybin mushrooms.

https://bigthink.com/neuropsych/stoned-ape-return/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

thats so epic

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

You know that mountain what where Moses did the thing with the burning bush? Hallucinogenic mushrooms.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Cedar waxwings get drink on fermented mulberries and roll around on the ground.

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