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Great.
I joined the Fediverse to escape Facebook's toxic interpretation of communities, so Facebook is coming to the Fediverse instead.
Just great...
this post was submitted on 28 Aug 2024
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You should just join an instance that blocks threads.net. Fortunately there are many of such instances. Your current instance doesn't seem to defederate any other instance, which is kind of suspect on its own.
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Check https://fedipact.online for instances that have defederated threads. Good luck! :)
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I don’t like this rebranding to “open social web” like it was made for them.
Something that is open and free was, by definition, made for everyone. Even the robber barons you hate.
Note: You can't interact with Threads accounts from Lemmy, but you can interact with Threads accounts from MBin (and maybe PieFed), except if your instance is defederated from them obviously
There's POTUS account for example @[email protected]
Why not Lemmy?
Lemmy doesn't implement Mastodon (which is the fediverse version of Twitter), only their own Lemmy one (Reddit clone). Kbin and Mbin implement both, as does pyfedi/piefed.
What happened to Kbin btw? I used to be on there since the start but the page has been broken since a while for me
It was run by one guy who had health issues. So it shut down. Mbin is the main fork now.
Ah I see. Good thing someone continued it tho!
The owner of kbin.social (and creator of kbin incidentally) has been MIA for a few months now, so it's presumed that it's over. I haven't heard of anything concrete regarding the fate of kbin.social or ernest though - unless someone has heard differently, it remains possible that ernest returns in a year or two and brings kbin.social back up.
Edit: I thought that https://kbin.earth/ still existed as an instance still running ernest's original flavour of kbin (as opposed to its sucessor mbin) but it turns out it has been moved to mbin as per the reply below.
With that, I'm not sure if anyone is still on the original kbin codebase at this point.
Why does Lemmy not interact with Mastodon if the other two can?
Design choice by the creators.
Am I the only one who thinks that's a bad choice? The whole point of the fediverse is that all the things are connected.
Lemmy is open source and so anyone who wants to add this functionality is free to do so.
Considering who the original creators of Lemmy are and the controversy over lemmygrad.ml however, I'd say that we dodged a bullet, all things considered.
If you want a thing that tries to integrate with everything, consider pyfedi - in addition to Lemmy and Mastodon they also have code to integrate with pixelfed and probably even more things (I'm still learning about all the integrations that it has).
So I tried to search for pyfedi, and the only things I found are some repos. Not quite sure what to do with that. HOWEVER, a few different repos seemed to list piefed as the thing it do.
So is pyfedi the same as piefed.social ?
I am enjoying the layout of piefed. It's quite tasty! I hope this is the thing that does the other thing.
But what if I transfer my Lemmy account to Piefed? Will I still be able to create communities on Lemmy.World? Or am I going to just end up with two different accounts, on two different sites, that do 97% the same thing?
Or am I just wrong all around, and pyfedi has nothing to do with piefed, and I've stumbled onto a different thing that does the thing that the other thing couldn't do, but is still connected to, but not in the same way, but still uses the same services?
So I tried to search for pyfedi, and the only things I found are some repos. Not quite sure what to do
with that. HOWEVER, a few different repos seemed to list piefed as the thing it do.
So is pyfedi the same as piefed.social ?
piefed.social is the flagship instance while pyfedi is the software. By analogy, lemmy.ml is the flagship instance of Lemmy, kbin.social was the flagship instance of the kbin software, and while it doesn't offically have a flagship fedia.io is the largest instance to run the mbin software.
I am enjoying the layout of piefed. It’s quite tasty! I hope this is the thing that does the other thing.
Yes!
But what if I transfer my Lemmy account to Piefed? Will I still be able to create communities on Lemmy.World?
My understanding is that unfortunately, to be the owner of a community or magazine (such as [email protected] ) that's local to given instance (lemmy.world here) your account would also have to be local.
Or am I going to just end up with two different accounts, on two different sites, that do 97% the same thing?
From what I understand, most folks pick one favoured instance as their primary one for that 97% - but create the local account to own the magazine/community as well as the rest of the 3%. (Note that you can add your primary account as a mod though, even if it's not local - so you have to create the community on lemmy.world with your lemmy.world account, but then you can add your piefed.social account as a mod to that community and then manage the new lemmy.world community mostly from piefed.social.)
Or am I just wrong all around, and pyfedi has nothing to do with piefed, and I’ve stumbled onto a different thing that does the thing that the other thing couldn’t do, but is still connected to, but not in the same way, but still uses the same services?
What can I say? The fediverse is complicated. But in a good way.
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Because right now the Threads federation is still pretty one sided, the Fediverse users can reply to the Threads posts, but the Threads users can't see the Fediverse posts, only replies
And with how Lemmy works, you can't reply to the microblogging accounts, you can't reply to Mastodon's posts neither, so you can't get your replies federated
That doesn't seem right. I remember responding to a few mastodon threads from lemmy and I was able to see my reply on the other end.
lemmy devs just havent put in the effort, but its clear they are on that path.
Why would I want to interact with people on threads? I’m here for the Lemmy community.
Yep, pyfedi supports Mastodon integration just like mbin.
Not quite as good as Mbin. For example you can't follow someone on mastodon from PieFed. They can follow you, though.
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Boo. Go away Zuck and take your shitty vertical videos with you.
We used to say that people who made vertical videos had Vertical Video Syndrome. It was a terrible time.
It took around a year for a solo dev (and a couple contributors) to develop a fully federated platform. Why is it taking one of the largest companies on the planet this long to make such tiny changes that are useless anyway.I am so glad my instance is defederated
same
Amen
I don't think i've ever seen a Threads message in any of my Lemmy / Mastodon feeds. Perhaps I'm not mixing in the right circles?
Your instance likely defederated threads
Threads posts wouldn't really appear on lemmy unless they deliberately format the post to tag a community. And they wouldn't be able to see replies either.
Fediverse is not super far from original internet idea with the exception of convenient block feature. Let’s hope that’s enough to prevent the sequel.
I don't want to see commercial content. I also don't want others to see it because it will pollute the culture of the Fediverse.
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