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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Trump, the same Trump that killed boarder legislation because he didn't want to give biden a win?

Not him, no, never.

Via user kingshrubb: Apparently she retracted her comments https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/22/world/middleeast/trump-netanyahu-cease-fire-talks-israel-woodruff-pbs.html

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[–] [email protected] 291 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

I'm gonna need more than somebody's social media post on this.

Edit: Because right now it's "somebody's" social media post with an unsourced and undated quote from "someone" referring to "reporting," with a picture of a lady that has a PBS/NewsHour watermark. This is exactly the kind of thing you should be skeptical of in the absence of better confirmation, all up and down that ladder of vagueness.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

I would delete it but it's too relevant to the meme. Alternative link to the dnc footage would be nice, tho.

[–] Habahnow 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The rueters one doesn't indicate anything about Trump talking to Bibi and discouraging him from setting up a peace deal.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

To me it's still relevant because it establishes that trump has an open line of communication to bibi and he is directly expressing to him his thoughts about the Genocide in Gaza.

Wish there was more reporting around this.

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[–] Mouselemming 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Agreed. The "lady" is Judy Woodruff, PBS anchor and correspondent since it was the MacNeill-Lehrer News Hour, so it would greatly surprise me if she didn't have some credible evidence behind "the reporting is".

But I missed that moment last night, so I'd want to be sure she said it.

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[–] [email protected] 153 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So like the alleged deal between the Reagan campaign and Iran during the hostage crisis to get elected and oust Carter?

[–] [email protected] 95 points 3 weeks ago

Or Kissinger and North Vietnam to get Nixon elected. It's a time honored Republican strategy.

[–] ZombiFrancis 22 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

What do you mean? Oliver North took all the blame!

[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Oh no, you're thinking of Iran-Contra, the other treasonous act that Reagan committed involving Iran. OP is talking about the rumored deal Reagan made with Iran wherein Iran would not release the American hostages until after the 1980 election. Coincidentally, the hostages were released on January 20th, 1981, the day Reagan was sworn in.

Sidenote, has anyone seen the Netflix documentary about the octopus murders? I think the proof that Reagan made that deal is at the heart of that conspiracy.

Edit: I've just come across this in another thread. It seems the hostage deal between Reagan and Iran did, in fact, happen. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a43368900/reagan-iran-hostages/

[–] ZombiFrancis 24 points 3 weeks ago

Aw shucks. You know just when you think you hone in on one depraved scandal of Reagan, you realize you're mixing it up with another depraved scandal of Reagan.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

I do not recall.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It is crazy to me that all of the "Genocide Joe" crowd don't see that Netanyahu wants Trump to win so he can show the world what genocide actually looks like.

Well, not that crazy, considering a good portion of them are propagandists.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It all so closely resembles 2016. Remember the phantom Bernie Facebook groups? Remember "Bernie supporters" voting trump instead. They think we are idiots and some of us must be for falling for it, time, and time again.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I've noticed a considerable lack of the usual suspects from that particular crowd in this thread.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Isn't him doing that illegal? Like very illegal?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you think either Trump or Netanyahu gives a single shit about what's legal?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

look, he’s doing this in the context of his presidential duties, this makes it completely legal, duh, fucking serfs getting uppity. ~~SCOTUS

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, but if Reagan can get away with it

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe if they stopped sending billions in weapons to Israel they could make something happen.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago

Reagan did the same thing with the hostages in the embassy in Iran.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago

Lol I was like "hold on, I've seen this one"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I feel like Nixon at least knew how to wear a suit.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable with imprisonment for up to three years."

I can only say: Lock him up!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I can only say: Lock him up!

…if convicted by a jury of his peers…

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Straight out of the Republican play book.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

It's posts like this that always oddly have 0 tankie comments lamenting about genocide Joe. Weird how that is, it's like they avoid all articles that disprove their entire worldview. Crazy.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Just when you think he couldn't be any more cartoonishly evil.

"Oh waiter, more genocide please"

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago

Something, something, Iran Hostage Crisis, something, something, more bullshit from the Reagan playbook

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (12 children)

To all the "Harris and Trump are the same crowd, stop being so cowardly and try to say that shit here and now. Or don't, and confirm that this whole time you were being wilfully ignorant because you enjoy purity politics nonsense.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

Oh I'm just sure that Linkerbaan is reposting this as we speak. Since he totally wasn't lying about Trump supposedly trying to negotiate a ceasefire lol

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

man I'm against genocide as much as any reasonable person. but fuck that guy.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I just blocked them since they seem like a cunt.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Doesn't that violate some US law? He is not authorized to negotiate with a foreign power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The only reason I could believe it, is that it's happened before. See: Reagan and the Iran hostages.

Still, I'm going to need a better source. This seems uncharacteristically competent.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If that's true, it's absolutely abominable.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We don't want boarders though. They will just kill us all and take our ship.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

Oh hey the traitorous traitor is doing traitor things.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

I don't want an end to killing because the killing helps me.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

It’s Iran-Contra all over again.

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