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[–] [email protected] 223 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

First they were the second most powerful army in the world.

Then they were the second most powerful in Ukraine.

And now they are the second most powerful in Russia.

I like they way this is going 🤗.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Second most powerful in Moscow 🤞😬🤞

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Second most powerful in Putin's dreams

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Would be wild if they took over Russia and Zelenskyy became the president of Russia.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And now they are the second most powerful in Russia.

I think it's been that way for longer than people think. Remember when Wagner just rolled through Russia without any resistance? Putin's might has always been false promises/ blackmail, but it's obvious now that Russia hasn't had the means to back itself up for a while now

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Prigozhin should have waited to betray Russia until Ukraine was in a position like this.

Seems like he was an idiot, though. IDK what level of delusional hubris one needs to be on to travel to Moscow after an attempt such as that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

With how it went down he was mainly an idiot for standing down. Idk how he imagined that ending

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (5 children)

they made a classic blunder- the one slightly more well known than getting into it with a scillian when death is on the line! Getting into a land war in Asia!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Wait. But aren't they Asia? Lol

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Russia is. (ukraine may not be. Usually the distinction is a bit further east of Ukraine- around the ural mountains.)

but.

Russia definitely are asian. So. given that they picked a fight on their border... I'm gonna go ahead and say "close enough" to make fun of them.

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

Go Ukraine, fuck Russia.
A not very wealthy country of about only 120 million people wanted to play superpower.
They were offered peace, cooperation and prosperity, but instead they chose corruption and confrontation.
Russia could very possibly have been the biggest economy in Europe by now, if they had chosen cooperation. That would have made them more powerful and influential than all the bullshit they've pulled to undermine the west and their neighbors.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I totally agree.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, they were handed everything they wanted on a silver plate.

They could have been Poland on steroids.

But they chose to reject it, so stupid.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Russians have been brainwashed for centuries by their elites to thinking corruption is the natural order of things.

They can't believe that western nations can have shows of wealth and quality of life standards they do, because that means the way they and their ancestors have lived for decades isn't how people are supposed to live.

Their elites steal everything, ensure education standards are low as possible so their workers can just barely manage to operate in a factory, on a farm or in a mine, and then encourage them to stay drunk as possible during their waking hours.

And then they wonder why Russians who manage to emigrate west never go home and sooner or later cut all contact with their backwards motherland.

Frankly if it hadn't been for the advent of Nuclear Weapons, and Soviets stealing designs for them from America, Russia never would have been a Superpower at all and probably collapse in on itself in the 60s.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Their elites steal everything

You think the western elites don't? It's just slower..

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago

The trick is not to steal faster than the economy can produce. It's like organic, fair trade, sustainable kleptocracy.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Western elites do steal, true. But to no where near the same extent. We'd have trillionaires in the west if they stole as much as Russian oligarchs do.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago

wanted to play superpower

As someone who is from that region, it's not even that. A whole lot of countries want to play superpower, and they are only mildly hated for it. The US, the French, even the Chinese are an abstract economic threat. The Russians want to play 18th century superpower and that makes them a concrete military threat.

The stupid thing is, just by looking at the state of the world right now, they totally would have won the long game if they went soft power only. Putin is a failure that way as well I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 month ago (11 children)

To my knowledge, it's the first time in history that a non-nuclear power invaded and occupied territory belonging to a nuclear power.

So, that's even more dubious history Putin played a part in.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 weeks ago

A very nuclear power at that.

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[–] Aurenkin 87 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Putin is finally making history, his legacy will now be remembered forever. What a great accomplishment! They said it would be over in 3 days, over two years later and now Ukrainian troops are in control of Russian territory.

Amazing what Ukraine has managed to pull off here. Watching closely to see how this unfolds.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You mean Putin, the Poisoner of Underwear?

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Another chance to use my new Ukrainian Riker!

(He's Rikrainian.)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He's going to struggle to perform the riker manoeuvre with a horn of that size..

[–] gravitas_deficiency 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s about the commitment to the leg throw, not the size of the hog in the hedgerow

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Jesus Christ, this is painful to read if you can read Cyrillic letters

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago

If I wrote "playing a sour note" in Ukrainian, no one would understand it.

Including me.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 weeks ago

Ukraine and Russia are uniting into one country. Just not the way Putin envisioned.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

He wanted a war, so he got one.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh no, poor Putin

But remember, when god closes a door, he certainly opens a window...

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

Good for Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Wowee, all he had to do was not be a shitter and this wouldn't have happened. Now it will be his eternal reputation in history books.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This is all history will remember him for. A botched violent and illegal invasion of a peaceful country for absolutely no good reason whatsoever!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

that and running russia for what 30 years now with Medvedev, starting a war on an alleged false flag attack and then running some kind of invasion every handful of years like clockwork.

What's funny is before Alex Jones became a giant putin simp he had, possibly correctly, suggested putin blew up some russian buildings to start a war in 1999

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Russia = New Ukraine 🇺🇦

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Yes, it's the embarrassment that's really important here. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 weeks ago

Surprisingly, yes. For that kind of people, public perception is everything

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago

It really is. The only way for this to end, is for Putin to lose support internally.

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