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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (5 children)

You laugh but this is not a joke. Oregon drivers are too fucking courteous and drive slowly. It's like they are so happy to live in such a beautiful place that they can't be bothered to rush about.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Ok, so hear me out, what if instead of treating it as a race, fight or other expression of competition, we would just treat driving as a way to get from point A to point B? Speeding on a highway is a great example of diminishing returns coupled with high risk, so why not just enjoy the ride and sit back for a moment?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can do that in the proper lane, the right one

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What if each morning we send out a few grannies driving side by side to accumulate traffic so everyone can enjoy an hour drive instead of 20 minutes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

You'd have some dead grannies

[–] Croquette 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are a few simples principles that would make traffic a lot better, and yielding the left lane for faster cars is one of them.

The other simple one is if you are not passing another car, stay on the right.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I assume that's the law pretty much everywhere. That said, most of my troubles have been with people who speed by a lot and weave through traffic. Slower cars are less of a problem because while it might be the same speed difference, I see them much better and they usually don't switch lanes erratically.

That said, I like traffic where I live now, because speeding 15% will get your license suspended, 30% will get you into jail. Traffic tends to be speedy, but coherent, everyone drives around the limit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They weave because of the slow cars not moving properly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Weaving is not moving properly though either. Speeding and weaving through traffic is public endangerment where I live. We have a very good road safety record as well.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I drive 3 hours round trip commuting every day. I can assure you those "diminishing returns" result in days of my life back at the end of the year.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The average commute is 24 miles a day. If you're doing a 3 hour commute like it's a NASCAR event then you need to reevaluate something. Not put everyone's lives at risk with reckless driving.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cool. I'm assuming you live in a population center? Possibly over paying for a house or apartment to keep your "sensable commute" down?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes and no. But if you're commuting 3 hours a day at an average 65 mph your burning 500 dollars a month in gas. More if you're going faster.

At that point eating 250 more a month in rent to live closer in isn't the world's worst idea.

And you're still putting other people in a lot of danger just for your convenience. If an accident does happen then survivability drops off sharply after 65-70 mph.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I drive with traffic, sometimes 90, sometimes 30, sometimes 70... And no, with 40mpg I spend 200 a month in gas. I can assure you driving 97 North/south, driving the posted speed limit will get you killed.

I'm not sure why I'm even arguing with you about this, you're West Coast, correct?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The east and west coast have the same popular myth. And it's bullshit. The stats don't lie. Fatality increases with accident speed. If you want to survive an accident then stay 70 or below.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Neat. Maryland has traffic codes for hindering traffic. If you are impeding traffic you will get a ticket.

Regardless of physics. You going into this so deeply tells me that you're either Californian or Washington state. I'd go with Californian on the premise you haven't let this go yet.

Also I haven't downvoted you a single time. That's not me doing that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I grew up in Maryland actually. And you have to go very slow, like 40 on the controlled access roads, before they issue that ticket. Going the speed limit or near it isn't a crime, no matter how much you want it to be. And every cop I've talked to wants us all to slow down, especially when the 95 gets fogged out. The Southwest has the same problem with people yeeting themselves into sandstorms and getting into accidents on mountain highways where they roll right off the mountain.

Thinking about it I'm pretty sure any cop that tried to bring a ticket for doing 60 in a 65 would get laughed out of the courtroom.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I commute 5 hours a day for work, and have to go in 3 times a week. I take the train now, but still have to drive 25 min to the train station. Taking the train takes exactly the same time as driving to my job. Which by itself is ridiculous. Up until recently, the option of taking the train in was not available. So I spent 5 hours in my car. The price difference between moving closer to work Vs living where I am right now is almost 2.5k a month. I don't get paid enough to pay 48 to 52k a year in rent. I work in cancer research. The jobs are in the city, not outside. So I don't have a choice, because every company that does what I do is in the city, and doesn't do remote work.

I have a feeling you don't really understand how things work for people sometimes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you have a train then you're not the one concerned with the speed of traffic. Unless you're trying to shave seconds off that drive to the Park and Ride?

At any rate the answer to the housing crisis is not turning our highways into a racetrack. Your edge case in no way justifies that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suite is it

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

The gas is meant to hug the floor tightly, engine is meant to roar, adrenaline to be pumped, and zoomies to be upheld.

...in a race. However, zoomies apply everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Even better would be taking the train, because it gives you time to study nature, read a book or take a short walk if you feel like it without delaying your arrival.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you ever taken the coast starlight or the Cascade trains? Last time I took the former it arrived 14 hours late.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I took the starlight, too. Same. Took the bus on the return trip, also awful experience.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Okay but I have a counterpoint...

Vroom vroom

I rest my case your honor

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Because you are not important. I am very important. I have places I need to be yesterday. And, yes, it IS a truck. I have never used the bed of my truck or it would get dirty. /dont drive //dont have a car ///but I DO have a DL! Has my picture and everything

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Aka, niceholes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Among us bicyclists, they're called niceholes. They're just trying to be nice to the bicyclist, but we would rather they just follow the traffic law so that they're predictable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Until the get to the other side of the Cascades. Then they turn into dumbfucks of the highest order.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sounds like what happened to former drill sergeant Bob Ross after he moved to Alaska

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oregonian drivers are normal people, drivers in NY/NJ/MA/RI however are lunatics

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oregonians almost take pleasure in driving slowly in front of you. Maybe they've just gotten used to going slow because the entire state freeway system is always under construction. People driving crazily is infuriating for a completely different reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well I know in the states I mentioned “slow” means 80 mph in the left lane, if they’re going 65 or 70 it’s expected. The caveat being it’s lawful to let faster drivers pass, ie if you’re in the left lane and someone’s faster behind trying to pass, you move over if you can

https://www.mwl-law.com/slower-traffic-keep-right-a-summary-of-state-keep-right-traffic-laws/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah but I'm doing 64 in a 55, passing the person doing 58 in the right lane and someone comes up behind me doing 75, acting like I'm impeding the flow of traffic.

It takes a little while to pass someone without wildly breaking the law.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Oh not not breaking the speed law...

Move the fuck over or don't pass

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I feel called out a little bit there. But you’re right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Try the brain of a random Maga loonie, slowest thing on earth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I don't know if the state you're from has anything to do with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

We have speed limits for a reason, why does everyone insist on ignoring them? Serious question, as I live in a mountainous area and cars are constantly crashing because people insist on speeding. The roads are winding and narrow with lots of traffic and wildlife, so you never really know what's around the bend.