this post was submitted on 29 Jul 2024
383 points (99.5% liked)

Programming

17534 readers
174 users here now

Welcome to the main community in programming.dev! Feel free to post anything relating to programming here!

Cross posting is strongly encouraged in the instance. If you feel your post or another person's post makes sense in another community cross post into it.

Hope you enjoy the instance!

Rules

Rules

  • Follow the programming.dev instance rules
  • Keep content related to programming in some way
  • If you're posting long videos try to add in some form of tldr for those who don't want to watch videos

Wormhole

Follow the wormhole through a path of communities [email protected]



founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 166 points 4 months ago (8 children)

I keep basically all of my shit on Gitlab, so depending on who they sell it to, that might be a goodbye. I've really enjoyed the platform, but if it goes into hands of either some clueless business people, data aggregator, or "AI-first" bullshit, i'm migrating to something else.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm in the same boat. I migrated all my stuff to Gitlab the day it was announced that Github was being acquired by Microsoft. I hadn't even really heard of Codeberg at the time. So I migrated to Gitlab.

And it sounds now like there's a high likelikhood I'll need to move it all again.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I hadn’t even really heard of Codeberg at the time.

Codeberg didn't exist back then yet.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

I've had my stuff on Gitlab way before that ever even happened, just because I've already had issues with the platform before, and knew it would eventually change hands. Shame it'll likely happen again with this too

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Come to Codeberg! I'm a member of the co-op and we're not for sale.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I've been casually taking a look at it for a bit, so it's definitely on the radar

Edit: Overall i’m happy, at first proper glance, but not having access to even barebones CI is kind of a pain. I can’t really deploy my own at the moment, and having to request access to their own Woodpecker instance is something that seems unlikely to be approved

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You shouldn't wait because it's going to happen. I moved all of my projects off of Github and Gitlab, and now self-hosting my own gitea instance. It's been great and never looked back!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Btw gitea has been involved in some shit, most of the Devs quit and created Forgejo. AFAIK you can seamlessly switch from gitea without needing to completely reset it.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 123 points 4 months ago (8 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

I hope they get true federation up running soon.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely.

I'll self host my own forgejo instance soon.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

It’s also what codeberg uses under the hood for those that don’t self host.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

GitLab has been working on support for ActivityPub/ForgeFed federation as well, currently only implemented for releases though.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 91 points 4 months ago (7 children)

The chances of a deal are said to be weeks away, if not non-existent.

What kind of non-sentence is that?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's an existing sentence if it's not non-exisent.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

Big if true and big.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Seems like a perfectly cromulent English sentence to me.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Looked up "cromulent" in the dictionary. Wasn't disappointed!!

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

It's what they most not the least

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

The kind of sentence you write when you're still 20 words from the target your editor set for the article

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I literally made an account the day before and transferred from GitHub, then wake up and see this. FFS just my luck.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

You should all incorporate and buy it.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I feel like sourcehut really ought to be mentioned more. It federates issue and PRs by email and has a wonderful interface while not having any ads—which is why hosting one's own repo (and their CI and IRC but nothing else) requires $2 a month, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I don't think it makes any sense to mention source hut because none of the features you mentioned are killer features (or relevant. Why should I care about implementation details of feature tracking?) and it completely fails to address GitLab's main value proposition: it's CICD system.

Anyone can put up any ticketing system. They are a dime a dozen. Some version control systems even ship with their own. CICD is a whole different ballgame. It's very hard to put together a CICD system that's easy to manage and has a great developer experience. Not even GitHub managed to pull that off. GitLab is perhaps the only one who pulled this off. A yams file with a dozen or so lines is all it takes to get a pipeline that builds, tests, and delivers packages, and it's easy to read and understand what happens. On top of that, it's trivial to add your own task runners hosted anywhere in the world, in any way you'd like. GitLab basically solved this problem. That's why people use it.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (11 children)

FYI you can self-host GitLab, for example in a Docker container.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago

Or you could make your life a lot easier and use Forgejo

[–] WolfLink 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can also just make bare got repositories on any server you can ssh into.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

make bare got repositories

got it

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (9 replies)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (4 children)

GitLab still doesn't even support leaving comments on a commit message. Like, what? GitLab and GitHub have all these fancy shiny features but still suck at offering basic code review functionality.

I never understood the appeal.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I mean, I get it, but that's also not a thing of git, right? Just because GitHub does something doesn't mean every other hosting provider needs to. If your code review process is to comment upon specific commits, maybe it's the code review process that's wrong?

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Ive been meaning to move to codeberg, self hosted forgejo, or sourcehut so this will only accelerate that if things get worse.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

I just flipped my home git to forgejo from gitlab, gitlab just had a bunch of features I wasn't using, forgejo was easy to setup and it has a nice interface. I'm just using it for source control right now, still probably huge overkill but eh

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

An other one bites the dust :'(

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (5 children)

GitLab is a security nightmare, good luck to whoever purchases that.

[–] Eezyville 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Could you elaborate? I use Gitlab bit i'm not a security expert.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Here is the one where I decided to never trust their code: https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/05/0-click-gitlab-hijacking-flaw-under-active-exploit-with-thousands-still-unpatched/

As if that isn't bad enough, I am pretty sure they have had other incidents.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (8 children)

I used to host a Gitlab instance at work. It was dog slow so I started digging into it and discovered they had a serious memory leak in some of their "unicorns," aka Ruby tasks. Instead of fixing the source of the leak they tacked on a "unicorn killer" that periodically killed tasks. The tasks were supposed to be atomic anyway, so this is technically fine (and maybe a good thing in the long run for correctness a la Netflix's Chaos Monkey) but I found myself kind of disgusted by the solution. I dropped it and went for a much sparser Git repo web server.

load more comments (8 replies)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Elon has entered the chat....how many labs of this git kind can you make for him within 3 months? Can git be somehow monetized?

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Fuck. No other source forge supports groups or orgs with hierarchical projects 🫤 Gitea and Forgejo went hard on being github clones, so they're off the list. Are there any other alternatives? I don't want to have to bash together scripts to make something...

Anti Commercial-AI license

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

ಠ╭╮ಠ

load more comments
view more: next ›