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[–] [email protected] 124 points 4 months ago

Whoever designed that image should have to return the Fe they were paid.

[–] shundi82 84 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Whenever abbreviations don't make sense, you can safely assume it's Latin.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (6 children)

This is medicine in a nutshell too. And not just abbreviations, but acronyms... for words in a language that no one uses. I hate it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I literally took Latin in college for the sole reason that Latin is used in super stupid ways, and my science communication degree would be worth less without that knowledge. Because Latin-base is fully half of the science terms you need to know.

And my college was super on board with my reasoning. Wish I’d also had the mental capacity for ancient Greek, because that’s literally the other half of naming schemes.

Ridiculous.

I’m super into modern scientists giving shit pop culture names. Because holy shit is it ever more memorable than some random Latin/greek bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Strange that 'classics' are taught mostly in the poshest schools. It's rare for elites to want to preserve any power they have and make it inaccessible to oiks. /s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Well, what other language should be used? Latin is the language of science because there's no way we'd ever agree on which alive language to use.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I didn't say it was a bad system or that we need to change it: I said I hate it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can you give an eggsample?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Couple common ones... there are hundreds of these.

Acronym - Full Latin - English

PRN - pro re nata - as needed

NPO - nil per os - nothing my mouth

AC - ante cibum - before eating

OD - oculus dexter - right eye

OS - oculus sinister - left eye

Q8H - quaque octava hora - every 8 hours

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

What about tungsten or sodium?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Apparently tungsten is also known as Wolfram, so that's the W. Sodium Na is from neo-latin.

[–] pumpkinseedoil 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's Na from Natrium (I have no idea why you even call it Sodium in English)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's called Sodium in English because an English chemist Sir Humphrey Davy discovered it & named it "Sodium" He was able to isolate it via separation of caustic soda (sodium hydroxide) and therefore named it after the caustic soda "soda-ium". A few years later, a German chemist (Ludwig Wilhelm Gilbert) was able to isolate it and named it "Natronium" Just under a decade later, Jöns Jacob Berzelius coined the term "Natrium" as he felt the name "Natronium" was too lengthy to catch on.

As to exactly why the earlier term was not respected is likely due to nationalism. During the earlier 1800's a lot of countries were desperately trying to take claim for various rapid advancements in chemistry, physics, mathematics, and medicine. Getting to have the name that "your guy" coined was largely bent around national pride.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Iridium quality cereal? ConcernedApe is so good to us!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

It's hard to make though. You have to harvest Iridium quality Wheat and mine for Iridium bars and then build the Advanced Cereal Irradiator on your farm to craft it.

It's hard to do until year 2.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People will hate on this, but what other breakfast cereal contains dental X-rays in every crunch?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Everyone knows that iron, like all abbreviated four-letter nouns gets abbreviated as the first three letters.

Iro
Jun
Fuc

See? Easy peasy

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't you mean "Eas peasy" :P

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Iroh, Junk, Fuc.... uhhhh... Fucu fish? Fucy, a name like "Lucy" but absolute garbtrash?

... Yeah okay that one's just "Fuck." But let's talk about Iroh anyway! He's way cool.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's some expensive cereal...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Probably cheap compared to that Kashi stuff.

[–] starman2112 5 points 4 months ago

Takes a distant third to magic spoon

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Yeah, my good buddy is from Genovia, where they use a regional version of the periodic table with more human-friendly names. They use Ca for calcium, Ir for iron, Hy for hydrogen, and Ox for oxygen. This change was their answer to the metric system—a way to make science more accessible to everyone ostensibly I believe.

Back in the 1960s, Gennovia was looking to bolster its local industry and economy. The government decided that simplifying scientific terms would help more people get into science and technology fields. It seems to be working because their literacy rates in science are through the roof? Somehow. They even have Ni for nickel and Si for silver, making it so much easier to remember what’s what. I didn’t know it was prevalent enough that it made its way onto package branding tho. Interesting stuff.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

a way to make science more accessible to everyone ostensibly I believe.

everyone that speaks English...

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Well I didn't expect to see a Meg Cabot reference on Lemmy. (She's actually a family friend believe it or not.)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Can confirm Genovia doesn't a fuck about IUPAC and its naming conventions.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Love me some cereal fortified with Iridium

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

man = male, iron = Fe > __________

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And the Masters of the Universe!!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I HAVE THE POWER!!!!!!!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I've swapped my genderrrrrr!!!!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Your number one source of Iridium and Californium! Over 10,000,000 calories in each bite!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Quickly, you only have .0001 seconds to enjoy your Californium!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not to be too pedantic, but Californium is Cf

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

If they put the correct symbol there it would read café

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Also a good source of California

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Fe

Of course that's iron. What, is that a Latin root or something?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yup, ferrum is the Latin word.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Good thing I speak French, it won't ever get me confused. In French, iron is called "fer". Also, copper is "cuivre", which also matches its periodic table symbol of Cu. Same can be said for lead: "plomb".

Unfortunately, there's quite a few that also don't match the symbol, some aren't even in English. I always hated how nitrogen is called "azote" in French.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

If they put "Fe" on it, too many people would boycott it for gendering the cereal.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Scanning for Iridium.

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