Science is a religion in the same sense as not playing golf is a hobby.
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Science is a religion in the same way that golf is a religion. It's not, but it's easy to see how one might get the wrong idea by listening to the rhetoric of its most enthusiastic admirers and not looking too closely at the actual thing they're talking about.
An oxymoron. The principals of science are provable through repetition. Faith implies lack of proof. An oxymoron.
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I'm unable to articulate the natural reaction that I have when somebody tries to sell me garbage. I can't articulate it when somebody explains to me, 'Well, the moon landings definitely happened.'"
Owens continued: "I'm just like, no, I don't know. Instinctually, it just doesn't register to me. Just feels like that is a lie. And I've realized that I've been thinking deeply about this, this pagan cult that we exist in. It is backed by a false science deity. That is what it is. It is the science. This is the new god."
So she just "instinctively" doesn't believe stuff that "feels" like a lie, and this proof that everyone else worships the "science deity." No mention of the giant rocket that left the surface of the earth and the video footage of both that and the surface of the moon itself?
This is the fundamental problem with this type of thinking. Sure you have some aspect of faith (I wasn't there, can't 100% confirm the authenticity of the footage myself), but it's clearly based on quite a solid piece of evidence. Dismissing that, on the other hand, is literally based on faith, her faith that this footage is fake based on no evidence whatsoever.
I contribute that, maybe, to coming from the school of hard knocks," she said, adding, "I am grateful for having gone through the school of hard knocks because you are required to have an element of common sense in order to survive."
The "school of hard knocks" apparently does not have a good science program.
I only read this article to work out why she specified "pagan" and I still have no idea.
I'm unable to articulate the natural reaction that I have when somebody tries to sell me garbage. I can't articulate it when somebody explains to me, 'Well, the moon landings definitely happened.'"
Owens continued: "I'm just like, no, I don't know. Instinctually, it just doesn't register to me. Just feels like that is a lie. And I've realized that I've been thinking deeply about this, this pagan cult that we exist in. It is backed by a false science deity. That is what it is. It is the science. This is the new god."
Oh, so what she's saying is she's stupid and is admitting to being stupid.
Sure you have some aspect of faith (I wasn't there, can't 100% confirm the authenticity of the footage myself), but it's clearly based on quite a solid piece of evidence.
Except that you don't need to have "faith" that this happened, you are able to verify it yourself!! There were reflectors left on the moon that you can shine a significantly strong laser to and have it reflected back if you have a sensor that can pick it back up.
THAT is the point of peer review. To prove that the results in the experiments are reproducible by those using the same equipment, and that faith isn't a requirement - that anyone can verify it and reproduce it.
How would those man-made reflectors have gotten there if not for man going to the moon and placing them there?
There were reflectors left on the moon that you can shine a significantly strong laser to and have it reflected back if you have a sensor that can pick it back up.
Yeah this is the huge issue for moon landing deniers. Also they have pictures of the landing site from the lunar reconnaissance orbiter, not that "school of hard knocks" alumni would believe that anyway (I tried once, did not convince them).
I was mainly using it as an example of how you could argue there was an element of "faith" at play, being generous. But of course you are right.
The natural reaction actually has a name, it's called being stupid.
Willful ignorance is even better since she is defensive about her stupidity and refuses to learn or accept new things.
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No mention of the giant rocket that left the surface of the earth and the video footage of both that and the surface of the moon itself?
This is why conservatism and conspiracy go hand-in-hand. You can't believe the things that "feel" true if the "true" truths keep interfering with this pesky reality.
"The longer people stay in school, it seems the dumber they become,"
What she means is that exposure to new ideas usually makes people change their beliefs, and this is a bad, bad thing because that usually involves ditching their parents failed conservative ideas. Right wingers hate education because it shrinks their base. Science = bad is a scream of frustration.
Christofascists fuck off. Not only is she obviously wrong about science being pagan, most pagans trust and follow the scientific method as the basis of our reality.
The Satanic Temple even has it as one of its tenets (not that they necessarily represent pagans, but it illustrates the idea)
V. Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
Sure okay then show me the proof that your faith has that God exists and then it'll be comparable to science.
Oh what's that? You don't have any fucking proof at all because it's make believe bullshit made up by ignoramuses from thousands of years ago?
Go fuck yourself Candace you dumb fucking cunt.
Who?
Actually, never mind. I don't want to know.
LOL. She converted to Catholicism? Wait until she finds out the originator of the big bang theory was a scientist who was also a Catholic priest. Then again she probably knows more about being Catholic than the Holy See (which she probably thinks is a body of water in Rome)
A broadly educated population is toxic to conservative ideologies.
holy hell she is an insufferable grifter. fits right into that party.
First off, Candeath Omens can go fuck herself.
I do think however that there is a weird technology faith in that people believe technology will fix all issues long term or improve or all aspects of our lives. Like when people say AI will fix global warming / climate change... dude, it can't even properly take orders at a McDonald's, which is traditionally one of the least qualified jobs. And if you ask an AI how to stop it, it'll just tell you what we already know, which people haven't been doing for years. Because that's what am AI does.
It's mostly the people neither actually engineering the technology nor studying the actual issue that believe this. But it's a huge driver in the discussion.
Technology and science are not the same thing.
Laser is also not describing faith in the proper context.
Believing tech will make your life better and believing in supernatural beings are not even close to the same thing. One is an ethos one is not.
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I can't even get AI to put an email attachment in a folder. It sucks so bad.
I describe Candace Owens as a “moron.”
That's being polite
Interesting. Faith is belief without the need for evidence while science is evidence based where belief its not needed. So "pagan faith" is ...um...
There's only one rule: say the most flippant thing possible to get platformed. Why are we still platforming this amoeba
De-platforming has proven ineffective. The best thing to happen to Trump was getting kicked off Twitter. Now he gets to spout all his bullshit and radicalize his fanbase with minimal pushback and reduced awareness from the public at large.
If de-platforming genuinely worked, then anti-semitism would have died out by now. But it won't so long as people can form their own communities and recruit under-the-radar.
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Guess I'm just a filthy pagan then.
I'm rather a pagan than christian.
So are many Christians. Pagan practices were merged into Christianity around 300 AD. They celebrate Christmas near the winter solstice even though Jesus was reportedly born in late September. The Christmas tree was taken from the Pagan tradition of Yuletide. The three days between Good Friday and Easter Sunday were originally intended to correlate with the path of Venus during the spring equinox, mirroring the resurrection in the story of Ishtar.
That's ok, I describe conservative as pig fucker.
If we're just making up meanings for words, they may as well be more descriptive.
Oh OK next time she or one of her loved ones(does she have any? lol) gets sick they can just "thoughts and pray" their way to recovery, n pagan hospitals medicine or doctors allowed right? Fcuk these people
[rant] How can we explain to a pitiful, helpless person that a concept is above their mental capacities without triggering stupid bickering ? That's mission impossible already ... but if on top, we are in front of a popular, rich and young person, then, even "god" if she(he) existed, would abdicate.
She looks pretty modern there for someone who views science as faith. All those clothes natural fibers and not made with electricity?
I describe Candace Owens as a smelly goblin, so we've all got opinions today.
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She continued: "And I said to him: 'Listen. I'm not a flat-earther. I'm not a round-earther.' Actually, what I am is, I am somebody who has left the cult of science. I have left the megachurch of science because what I have now realized is that science—what it is actually, if you think about it—is a pagan faith."
interesting points about Israel, though.
The article never describes who she is? Is she important? Why is she newsworthy?
There is a market for token black people in the right wing movement. They serve as convenient mascots for racists to point at defensively whenever someone points out their racism. To maintain such a position, the black person must continuously prove their bonafides by saying stupid shit like this . Candice Owens is one of those people.
That the republican party, the party of traitors and fuckwits, isn’t a fringe party is an indictment on America. We fucking deserve trump, idiots that we are.
Whelp if science is a religion, at least our pastors aren't covering up for child-molestation.
But seriously though, even when not being grifters, it's like as though conservatives just never developed a theory of mind - they can't process the idea of people who don't possess some kind of dogmatic faith.
Some people prefer to follow where the evidence leads, rather than what the pastor says.
But like it’s not faith it’s literally facts and logic
Let's have a contest. Let's see who can get to the moon first. She can build temples, and churches, make sacrifices at holy shrines, and get thousands and thousands of people to pray for her to get there. Me, I'll take a rocket built by scientists.
She couldn't even get across an ocean or to the top of the highest mountains on Earth with nothing but religion. She couldn't even feed her drivel to her ~~victims~~, sorry, listeners if scientists hadn't developed the various technologies used to send her words and images to them.
The "false science deity" is evidence lol.
Utterly moronic of her.
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