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Trump–Biden Debate Conspiracies Have Already Flooded the Internet (www.wired.com)

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[-] [email protected] 167 points 2 weeks ago

Biden looked terrible, and he sounded terrible. Trump lied about 99% of the time. Biden told us what he did for ALL Americans and there is more to come. Trump admitted he cut taxes for the wealthy and destroyed environmental regulations. As a voter, you are voting for the candidate and their administration. The choice in 2024 is, A. Things get better for our Democracy, or B. We install a dictator and voting ends forever. They are not both the same, and NOT voting, or 3rd party voting, helps the weaker candidate win.

I'm voting for the candidate that has been making life for ALL citizens better, that's the job of the President.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

This run down fits with what I saw but biden was better by the end if not great. Trump did a good job though of looking better in a beauty pageant aint nobody want to be a contestant in.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Great, no. Better, undoubtedly.

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[-] [email protected] 104 points 2 weeks ago

It's so painful to watch Biden attempt to recall accurate information, while watching Trump effortlessly lie.

[-] [email protected] 53 points 2 weeks ago

This is probably the worst Biden has ever sounded, and it was largely because he was trying to remember and repeat everything he could.

Meanwhile Trump just says whatever comes to mind.

Also, what was up with those muffled mics? You could hear it in Trump's mic too until he started getting louder.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Before the debate they said Biden had had a cold as well.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

At one point trump was talking forever. you could see even he was not sure what else to say but he kept plugging along. I was like. isn't his time up? aren't they supposed to mute the mics?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I didn't notice the muffled mics, but I agree with you on all accounts otherwise

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

The mics were turned off when it wasn't their turn.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

No, I mean both candidates sounded softer than normal. Like the sound was a bit muffled. It was most noticeable at the very beginning before they started talking louder.

[-] vaultdweller013 5 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like a noise suppression issue. Probably just a fuck up by the techs.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

its easier to make stuff up than remember details that need to be accurate.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

As I'm watching it, Mozart's Requiem in D minor is playing in my head.

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[-] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago

They set the expectations ridiculously low for Biden and are desperately trying to claw that back. When they say he can't string two sentences together, all he has to do is string two sentences together and he's shown that they're wrong about him. Such morons.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago

Meanwhile, I had higher expectations for Biden, and Trump's expectations are what I'm seeing.. This debate will not sway me away from voting Biden, but fuck is it hard to watch.

[-] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago

I try to remember that we're voting for an entire administration and presidential appointments, an apparatus much larger than one old man. It's cold comfort, but it's something.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago

I feel like Biden has exceeded my expectations for him. I wouldn't call him good, but he's better than I expected him to be, which was essentially Trump lite on policy.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

I agree, and have said the same repeatedly. In 2020, I just wanted a president who wasn't a complete crook, con man, and national embarrassment. I didn't think Biden would accomplish much, I just hoped he could repair our reputation with other countries a little.

I was stunned that Biden accomplished more than Obama. He certainly isn't perfect, but he's fine a good job. Just that infrastructure bill would be something most presidents would take as their legacy, but he's done a lot more.

He's too damned old, but I'll still take him over Trump.

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[-] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago

I dunno. IMO, he didn't sound terrible. He sounded like an 81 year old who probably shouldn't have been shoved into the nomination but the other frontrunner last time could have forced some representation of the left, so the DNC did it anyway. At least he made an effort to make sentences and call out lies, which the moderators should have.

I hate that our choices are a guy who should be retired vs a nazi that should be retired.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I hate that our choices are a guy who should be retired vs a nazi that should be retired.

Very well said

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I didn't watch it, but from what I'm reading this morning, it probably won't change anyone's mind.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I did watch it. It was not great but, I'm still left with the impression that people set really unrealistic expectations for an 81 year old with a history of speech impediment. Those things come back in novel ways as we get older. IMO, the whole thing borders on elder abuse but, that's where we're at. Just disappointing to see the "left-wing" (corpo) media immediately on the attack - they seem to be trying to carry more water due Trump.

Also, I am not sure if the shell-shocked look of the talking head before she started speaking was from the debate or the words on the teleprompter.

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago

And russian trolls do their best ... or worst right now. And chinese leaders wait and smile.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

It's no conspiracy that Trump dodged almost every question.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Still voting for Biden. He maybe senile but his heart appears to be in the right place. It's all I got to work with. 🤷‍♂️

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

It was a legitimately bad performance from Biden. Every media outlet is reporting how bad it was.

Even if the overall debate wasn't that bad from him, his few moments of mumbling gibberish will overshadow everything else. Trump rightly pointed out at one point he couldn't understand anything Biden was saying to try counterpointing it.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Event happens.

Internet floods with conspiracies about Event.

News reports that there are conspiracies about Event.

Rinse and repeat. "Event" can be virtually anything of public note.

[-] Grass 5 points 2 weeks ago

just dump them both and their first replacements in a black hole and things will potentially improve.

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