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[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 months ago

Unrealistic: in the real version, no awnser would be declared as fact. Even if one is clearly wrong the awnser will always be:

"It is important that we listen to both sides"

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Social media in a nutshell

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago

YOURE WRONG AND HERE LET ME EXPLAIN WHY BUT INSTEAD OF EXPLAINING I USE A PERSONAL ATTACK

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago

The next US presidential debate in a nutshell.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago

“If you can’t pound the facts, pound the table”.

— republicans.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm Sam Reich and I've been here the whole time!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That's gonna be...

* rolls a dice *

16 points taken away from Brennan

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Commenting against the Lemmy narrative be like:

[–] zarkanian 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How do you shout over somebody in a text forum?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What is the Lemmy narrative from your experience?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

Israel bad, AI bad, police bad, Elon bad, Capitalism bad, Boeing bad, Microsoft bad, Apple bad, Facebook bad, rich people bad, landlords bad, C.E.O.s bad, ads bad, cars bad, SUVs/trucks very bad, piracy good, bikes good, uBlock Origin good, trains good, Linux good, bats good, Ukraine good, protests good, socialism good ...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Linux good should have been repeated at least 5 times in that list

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I agree. Cannot repeat that one often enough.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (11 children)

i can easily agree with 90% of that. The remaining 10% needs asterisks pointing towards further nuanced discussion. I'll not specify which topics go into which category.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (10 children)

I also agree with most of that, but that doesn't make it OK to downvote opinions to the contrary for no other reason than "I disagree".

If comments of different perspectives, made in good faith get downvoted to oblivion then participation is discouraged, debate gets replaced with circle jerking and Lemmy becomes a very boring and out of touch echo chamber just like Reddit.

Downvotes should only be used for comments that are off topic, factually incorrect, hateful or made in bad faith etc.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Downvotes should only be used for comments that are off topic, factually incorrect, hateful or made in bad faith etc.

So something like this comment: https://lemmy.ca/comment/9747509 Which equates not liking Elon Musk with hate groups against minorities?

Usually when people complain about something like "the Lemmy Narrative" they're usually not bringing nuanced discussion to their posts and are just upset that people aren't agreeing with their "hot takes."

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Shit takes get downvoted. Rational disagreements don't.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Do you have an example on why any of these povs are wrong?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No, I don't think any of those claims is entirely wrong but I don't fully agree with most of them either.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

What's this!? Complexity in your opinions!? Don't 100% agree or disagree on something based on a 3-5 word sentence?! Straight to jail.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Wow, quite an extensive list. Haven't expected that. Thanks for sharing!

Yeah, I guess there is some truth to it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Lol what maniac would hold opposite opinions for all of these? I like AI though.

[–] zarkanian 7 points 2 months ago

I like AI though.

Burn the heretic! Buuuurrrrrnnnn!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

dbzer0 moment

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Wait, aide from all the others, "Boeing bad" is just a narrative? Dude, have you been living under a rock?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

To be honest, I agree with all of these. Seeme line I am at the right place.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I've heard beans are good too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Imo the only actually divisive opinions are around tipping.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, this is what happens to people who give up on learning and critical thinking. They glom onto people who can shout bullshit in a loud, confident voice because the bullshit is more important to them than the person actually being right.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

And let's face it, everyone is vulnerable to that shit in some way or the other. But being conscious of that vulnerability is the first step.

[–] Lucidlethargy 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Republican debates in a nutshell.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Not just republicans / politically right-wing oriented folks. From my experience you encounter this everywhere where people haven't learnt how to have a civilised discussion. An important part of this is the ability to self-reflect and distinguish emotions from opinions from facts. Humans are emotional beings in their core and therefore the most are fallible. It's only natural to resort to an emotionally driven and often stubborn defence mode if one encounters a contrary opinion. Even more so if that opinion is expressed in an emotionally loaded manner. It's unfortunately a very counter-productive human behaviour.

And we have that a lot on the internet. Sadly.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think I ever saw this show. Is it basically the same as the drinking game of the same name?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know the drinking game.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There's a few variations, but the one I'm most familiar with is like go fish, except you don't have to be honest if you have the card someone else asks for. I've played versions done with trivia, though where you have to determine if the answer given is real or bullshit (which would be more likely to turn into a game show). I've only done the latter like twice and I was drunk at the time so I don't remember the exact rules. 🤣

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