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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16384963

There’s a good chance that when you were a teenager, getting your driver’s license was seen as a rite of passage, and you probably couldn’t wait for the freedom promised by that shiny new card in your credit card-less wallet. At least, that’s unless you’re a teenager today, and then the picture might not be so cut and dry. Unlike when I got my learner’s permit 20 years ago, today’s teenagers have already been enjoying a new form of affordable and effective transportation freedom: electric bikes.

And it’s changing the way they view getting a driver’s license.

Electric bicycles have been gaining popularity in the US for over a decade, but they’ve taken off in impressive numbers over the last several years.

Once considered an alternative for older riders looking to get back on two wheels, electric bikes have now gained favor with just about every age group. There are balance e-bikes for toddlers, children’s models, e-bikes popular with teenagers, models for the general public, and models/companies that cater to older riders.

With more teenagers flocking to e-bikes than ever before, the “freedom” that traditionally came at 16 years old with a driver’s license is now available to teens even earlier. And while that also comes with some real concern from some parents, plenty of other parents have embraced the freedom and independence that electric bikes have offered to their teenagers.

As Olivia Rockeman pointed out recently in the Wall Street Journal, “Many parents see e-bikes as alternatives to shepherding their kids between school and sports practices, particularly as the number of teens with driver’s licenses has fallen by about 8% over the past two decades, according to the latest data from the Federal Highway Administration. The e-bikes also grant more independence to teens not yet old enough to drive.”

Encinitas, California resident Aaron Hebshi, whose 17-year-old daughter put off getting her driver’s license in favor of her electric bicycle, explained to Rockeman that his teen isn’t in a rush to get behind the wheel. “There wasn’t quite the imperative for her to get a license that kids may have felt when I was growing up. Before we were 16, we couldn’t go anywhere without our parents in San Diego.”

Mother of two teen boys in Hermosa Beach, Erika Mamber, shared that e-bikes for her kids have saved her countless car trips to school, sports practice, and tutoring sessions.

Those views are gaining steam among a wider group of teenagers and their parents, who have discovered that e-bikes are giving those kids more freedom, and by extension, giving more freedom to parents. What’s driving teens away from cars and onto e-bikes?

This shift from getting a “first car” to getting a “first e-bike” is driven by many factors. Still, some of the largest motivations include a mix of economic, practical factors, and environmental concerns that are reshaping the landscape of personal transportation for the younger generation.

The economic advantage

For many teens and their families, the cost of car ownership is a significant deterrent. From the price of the vehicle itself to insurance, fuel, and maintenance, the expenses can quickly add up.

E-bikes, on the other hand, offer a more affordable alternative. The initial purchase price is considerably lower, and operational costs are almost zero, outside of occasional new brake pads and tires. With the rising cost of living, many families find e-bikes to be a financially savvy choice.

For under $1,000, American teenagers can find a good e-bike. I made that much mowing lawns one summer as a teenager and that was twenty years ago. For $3,000, teens can find a great e-bike with even higher quality and longevity. Compare that to the price of new or even used cars. Just the summer-long maintenance and fuel on a car can cost as much as an entire electric bike.

Independence and convenience

E-bikes also provide a level of independence that many teens crave. Unlike cars, which require a driver’s license and often parental supervision during the long learning period, e-bikes are accessible immediately. Teens can start riding as soon as they have a bike and (hopefully) the necessary safety gear.

They also don’t need to spend hours in a driver’s education course learning the nuances of car control. Most kids grow up learning to ride a bicycle and so the handling skills are already there.

Still, driver’s education courses designed for cyclists are highly encouraged for teens who eschew cars in favor of e-bikes. The rules of the road apply equally to cyclists and car drivers, and not learning the rules is not an excuse for breaking them.

Safety considerations

While e-bikes offer many advantages, safety is a key concern for parents and teens alike. Many cities are adapting to the increase in e-bike usage by expanding bike lanes and implementing stricter regulations to ensure rider safety.

Helmets, proper lighting, and adherence to traffic rules are essential components of safe e-bike riding and are highly recommended for teenagers who regularly travel by e-bike.

At the same time, many teens have accepted the growing notion that a 6,000 lb vehicle might not be the safest option when considering all road users. Whereas many adults have their eyes on the largest trucks and SUVs, many teenagers value smaller and lighter vehicles, especially options that can get them out of the road and into the bike lane.

The concept isn’t exactly pervasive, and America’s addiction to massive vehicles is unlikely to break anytime soon, but a growing number of younger Americans aren’t buying the same promises that the automotive industry is selling their parents.

Environmental consciousness

Much more so than a generation ago, today’s teenagers are increasingly environmentally conscious. The impact of climate change and the importance of sustainable living are at the forefront of many teenagers’ minds.

E-bikes, with their zero emissions, offer an eco-friendly alternative to cars. Many teens feel that choosing an e-bike over a car is a tangible way to contribute to a greener planet.

More than just an expanding trend

The trend of teenagers choosing e-bikes over cars is growing. As more teens delay or forego getting their driver’s licenses, the shift is proving to be not just a passing fad but rather a reflection of changing attitudes toward transportation and lifestyle.

Cities continue to evolve and adapt to new modes of transportation, and the role of e-bikes is likely to expand. For now, the sight of teens zipping around town on their electric bikes is becoming increasingly common, signaling a new era in personal mobility.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago (8 children)

I mean it's as simple as they cannot afford cars

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Not to argue, because I'm sure what you're saying is very true.

I wouldn't trade my ebike for an EV, not having to deal with a car is a blessing if your city doesn't suck. Cars are destroying our cities and our planet and EVs solve none of these problems.

Sorry I know I'm super annoying I just really wish more people would get on board with ditching cars.

[–] Socsa 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The problem is going to be expanding infrastructure. Right now my bike route to work is a single 2m wide trail at parts. If 10% of people in the region start using it, it's going to suck just as much as driving does.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

More infrastructure is definitely needed, but public support has to come first. Also I think you might be surprised how tolerable bike "traffic jams" are, and how difficult it is to actually create them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What american city doesnt suck? Itd be suicide to ride one in my city with 10-20% of people in big trucks and the rest in SUV's on 55+mph roads where everyone speeds.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Doctors have been seeing a huge increase in traumatic head injuries due to the rise in e-bikes. People just aren't used to the increased acceleration, increased speed without an increase in safety measures, and the travel among cars with even less protection than motorcycles. Only half the people riding them wear helmets, too.

EDIT: To be clear, I'm not advocating against them or against bikes in general. I'm just saying that they are much more dangerous than normal bikes and that people haven't caught up to the skill required to use them safely.

[–] threelonmusketeers 37 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Only half the people riding them wear helmets, too

This seems like one of the major issues which needs to be addressed. Wear your helmets people, and call out your friends if they don't!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

A friend of mine once asked me to plan an afternoon bicycle trip for a bunch of teenagers to help out with a youth group he volunteered for.

After making sure everyone had signed forms stating the rules of the trip from who you're taking directions from to what equipment needs to be brought, helmets were first on the list. In caps. Hilighted... Someone came without a helmet for him or his son. Straight up told them the only way they're continuing with our group is to find a properly fitting helmet in the Helmet Of Shame bin I keep for such events.

They're all some sort of ridiculous design like painted on unicorns and stuff. Like 90% things most people wouldn't want to wear, since I usually buy my Shame Helmets from clearance racks.

They chose to go home.

Seems a little ridiculous to me but their loss. Everyone else had a blast.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

helmet of shame

Kind of a bad name for it...shame implies punishment of some kind. You are trying to do the literal opposite. I get where you're going with it but yeah..just my thoughts

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It is punishment for not bringing a helmet themselves. There are a lot of things people are shamed for that they shouldn’t be, but experiencing shame can motivate one to change their behavior to avoid shame in the future. If being shamed for not bringing a helmet influences them to bring one in the future or not ride a bike without a helmet, that’s a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

It's like making the new guy wear the hot pink safety vest when he forgot his normal hi-vis.

Or making the recruit carry the log "rifle" when they forget something for their service weapon.

So far the only people to be repeat Helmet of Shamers are people who want to wear the ridiculous helmets.

Which I'm fine with. My wife often wears the unicorn helmet. Sometimes I wear the purple silicone Mohawk one with her just because.

It works.

And if someone couldn't afford a good fitting helmet, I will happily go with them to buy one so I'm sure it's a proper fit. Too many people wear helmets loosely or a size too large/fitted large.

My original excuse for not wearing a helmet was "it's too expensive for a good one so why bother" but my first crash, I immediately went to get a helmet when I went out the following day. Had to be driven home because I couldn't even walk for a few hours thanks to the thrashing my legs took. Had that been my head, I'd be dead.

So yeah, I WILL shame people for not wearing a helmet when they're perfectly able to. But it's like... Pretty mild in terms of "shame" in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

This is a good call out. Language matters

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'd just own the unicorn helmet so hard people thought I meant to wear it, then I'd steal it and keep wearing it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

There are a few people here and there who have been stoked to wear it, and ask if they can "borrow it next time"

And as long as they wear a helmet, I'm happy they're happy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wear my motorcycle helmet when on my ebike. I get weird looks, but I'd rather that than permanent brain damage. It really upsets me when I see people riding electric scooters or ebikes without a helmet on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You may be even safer with a lighter helmet. I use a full face moto-cross helmet for a similar activity.

Allegedly a heavier helmet meant for higher speeds may cause injuries that could be avoided. It's obviously still way better than no helmet but potentially not optimal. I'm not an expert but it's something I came across in my own research.

Helmet gang unite!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What do you mean "you might be", "allegedly"? Statistics should be pretty clear on this?

[–] Socsa 5 points 5 months ago

For the kind of falls cyclists take, the bulky motorcycle helmet may increase the likelihood of whiplash-like injuries. In motorcycle collisions this is an acceptable trade-off because of the high speeds involved but for cyclists it may tilt the equation in the wrong direction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I mean that I'm quite sure but don't feel like citing it, myself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I feel like when you're going 30 and sharing the road with cars a motorcycle helmet is what you'd want.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Not only that, but the infrastructure must catch up too.

I bet many bike-friendly cities don't have too much of an increase on those accident numbers.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Same reason me, a 35 year old, is riding a goddamn ebike.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Ebikes are awesome. If you told me five months ago that I'd be doing stuff like 45 mile bike rides to go grab some soap from a store across the city, I would have laughed in your face and called you insane.

And yet, here I am, haha. It's also been incredibly helpful to ebike around the city during the week to get my legs really prepped for mountain biking on a standard enduro bike during the weekend. With the motor turned off, it's like a 70 lb exercise bike. Except you actually go places instead of being in a dusty gym. I think my legs have been the most fit and conditioned they ever have been since I have been biking like, four to six times a week, then sometimes weekends too.

Also saves me a stupid amount of money on gas and parking, which I'm not paying for when I ride my ebike. Electricity costs pennies.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I really need to build my e-bike 2.0. Built version 1.0 back in 2013 or so, and it was amazing. Rode it everywhere for both utility and pleasure. Dual hub motors that could operate in single or dual wheel drive, 48v 20Ah battery, top speed of about 45 MPH, and a range of about 30-40 miles (motor(s) only; more if pedaling and/or only using 1 motor).

My only regret with it was that I built it on a mountain bike frame and didn't upgrade the stock, clamp-style brakes. Needless to say, at "fun" speeds, it was a death trap lol (had to 'Fred Flintstone' it to a stop quite often). Version 2.0 will have beefy disk brakes donated from a dirt bike or something.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have no idea if this is a thing on ebikes but my scooter has regen brakes that help recharge the battery. They work pretty well for slowing down. And I still have drum brakes in a pinch. Mine doesn't go 45mph, tho.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Some e--bike motor controllers can do regen, but my current ones don't. That's probably an upgrade I'll look into for version 2.0. I use regen braking heavily in my hybrid, so it's definitely a worthwhile upgrade if I can add that to my e-bike :)

Mine doesn't go 45mph, tho.

I had to bypass an electronic governor in the motor controller to make it do that, lol. Otherwise, I think it would top out at like 15 mph.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A large number of manufacturers build in the speed limit but helpfully, they've provided a handy little Speed Wire you can cut to remove the limiting circuit.

At least, most of the aftermarket escs I've seen while looking to part together my own hub motor build have had a little loop included specifically for cutting out the speed control. Although I'd probably solder in a toggle switch for when I lend people my bike...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

but helpfully, they've provided a handy little Speed Wire you can cut to remove the limiting circuit.

One of my two controllers was like that which made it super easy. The other one I had to splice in a resistor and pull it low or something like that (been a while - don't remember the specifics). That one, it wasn't so much disabling it as tricking it into thinking your speed was lower than it was (kinda like in Die Hard 2 lol).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

This comment makes me cringe (In an, "omg that's so dangerous" sense) and then I realize that you're probably riding around an american city with no bike lanes/paths and going 30MPH is probably safer than going 20MPH.

Anyways, bless you for riding a bike.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

How on earth did you get a bike built to go that fast? The fastest I've seen here in the States so far is like half that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I mean regular bikes work too. A lot of people commute on regular bikes. Small engine dirt bikes and scooters also don't require a license. My point being that this doesn't really seem new conceptually, just a new avenue for something people have been doing for a long time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ebikes are just really convenient, especially in north american cities. Having an ebike makes a hilly 8km ride a lot more bearable than when I only had an acoustic. It's a huge difference and without my ebike I would make fewer trips to see my family etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

You can’t just use the word “acoustic” to refer to a normal, non-motorized bicycle. That word has nothing to do with the meaning you’re trying to convey and I refuse to allow it to be co-opted into some sort of lame ass slang.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Stairs are just acoustic escalators :}

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have yet to see this happen in the real world

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

For real? I'm definitely seeing more teenagers on ebikes where I live. Which kind of impresses me, actually, because my community isn't exactly a bike-friendly place. Honestly, some of the teens are kind of punks who are a bit annoying, or cut across the lawns of businesses or churches when they shouldn't, but it sure is a cheaper way to get around and it's less dangerous to other people on the road than if they were driving cars.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I live in CT, and it's hard for me to fathom not having a car, even if you live in one of the cities.

[–] fruitycoder 2 points 5 months ago

E bikes are the option for people that value freedom and liberty for sure.

A couple grand a giant heap of maintenance or 15 + for a less maintance box you have figure out how to store and move around for the rest of your life. Or a small bike you could fit in a studio apartment, or train, or plane for a couple hundred to a couple grand if you really want to some special feature (like good off road use, cargo storage, longer commutes of assisted pedaling).

[–] You999 2 points 5 months ago

I find the title of that article funny because in a lot of states you still need a driver's license to ride an e-bike.

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