Oh great, another log onto the raging fire in the Middle East.
Iran’s president is dead and the King of Saudi Arabia is likely on his way out, but on the other hand, neither of these two wielded actual power.
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I hope there’s a blancoliro or Mentour Pilot analysis of this aviation mishap. I’m guessing spatial disorientation or controlled flight into terrain.
Almost as if you shouldn't fly a helicopter through foggy mountains...¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That’s what got Kobe.
"Say...what's a mountain goat doing way up here in a cloud bank?"
Throw in an admiral cloudburg article and its perfect.
I'm going to call it CFIT simply because its most likely and I doubt Iran will investigate well enough to find anything else.
Unless its a murder and the pilots dumped the body and flew somewhere else.
I guess it doesn't matter if Israel is behind this or not, because they're going to get the blame in any case...
Hopefully not. Helicopters legitimately do just crash a lot in foggy conditions, and rugged terrain doesn't help.
If it was Israel, they did a very good job picking a moment Raisi was somewhat likely to die anyway.
The Israeli government isn't exactly known for their subtly... UNLESS.... They've deliberately been shit at hiding it before so this time everyone would assume it couldn't have been them....Netanyahu is a stable genius playing 4D chess...!
subtlety*
Their helicopters are also generally old and with scarce replacement parts due to sanctions. Mechanical failure could easily be the case if not the terrain.
Not just rugged, but mountain terrain. Having to go high means thinner air and less lift. Coupled with the fog, I think they might have put themselves in quite a precarious situation.
Seems unnecessarily dangerous to run in fog. I know a geologist that works for a mining company in parts of the world like this and they say that anything other than pristine weather basically grounds a helicopter flight. It probably isn't a risk most of the time but why risk it?
Huh, TIL there's a distinction. Where is mountainous considered to begin?
I feel like if there was a pamphlet people got upon becoming rich and famous, "don't helicopter through foggy mountains" would have to be on it.
Well, I suppose you could call a mountain rugged, but I wouldn’t say rugged is exclusively mountainous. I wanted to emphasize mountainous because I had an ESL student who was a pilot in training, and he had told me all about the dangers of mountains specifically.
Helicopters and IMC don't seem to mix particularly well.
Is this a different story than the other hard landing story about some leader?
It’s the same story. I believe the first official Iranian statement had language like “involved in a hard landing” without anything else.
They have since turned to asking for prayers for their safe recovery, and apparently asked the EU for satellite imaging to help with search and rescue. [this is from a New York Times timeline that I recently read.]
Well, a crash is a hard landing of sorts...
It’s on land. That’s a landing. Yiu didn’t specify in preflight check in that you required a safe landing.
I'm not familiar with the story you're referring to, but typically a hard landing doesn't necessitate a search/rescue team. Unless it's a very hard "landing" into the side of a mountain, for example.
The fact that they haven't found them yet, indicates a very hard landing indeed.
Or just really difficult terrain, give that it's foggy so you can't simply look for smoke.
At what point does it become just a crash.
Maybe this will help the Iranian people overthrow their oppressive theocratic government.
Doubt it, even if Khamenei was on board. Like everywhere else, there are just too many powerful people with too much to lose.
Same story
he died... wow
This guy was a real piece of shit. Fingers crossed he’s dead.
He is, the Iranian media and government confirmed
who is next in the chain of succession and what type of dillhole are they
Are we allowed to celebrate someones death in this lemmy community? If so color me celebrated!
lol helicopters. Pilot must have sneezed.
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