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[–] [email protected] 250 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"ChatGPT, how do I use a Java SQL connector?"

"Duplicate question, closed"

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Are we sure this deal is about answering new SO questions with LLM? It's more likely to be a deal where SO sells access to its database to OpenAI so they can use human-generated content for LLM training, and SO gets to use LLM as a more efficient search through its human-generated content.

It's possible they could also choose to delegate the duplicate decision to the LLM but let's be honest, that decision is currently crap anyway.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

I think the joke is that the AI trained on SO data to the point that duplicate, similar, or common questions would get this treatment. Since that's common enough on SO to be a meme.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Okay, but on current hardware/OS the previous solution is no longer valid... Hello?!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Have you tried using Windows 11 instead of your weird Linux distro? Windows 11 is the best Operation system in the market, by the greatest software company Microsoft. It features the best user experience, not only removing all those complicated settings from your grasp but providing you with suggestions tailored just for you!

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[–] [email protected] 212 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What annoys me about companies like StackOverflow, Reddit, Twitter, etc. partnering with AI firms is that they do not actually create any of the content on their platforms. Sure, if you read the terms they technically own the data, but still...

[–] [email protected] 101 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Just more nonsense showing how broken modern copyright is. It's too hard to write weasely legalese to just say you have the right to reproduce content submitted to your website, you have to own it entirely. And if you own it, why not sell it?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago

It's not difficult at all, these companies just have no reason to do it that way. They force you to agree to their terms before you can use the website at all, which means they're in a much better position to make demands. We can't counter with anything, it's just "agree that we own this copy of your content".

And most of us agree to it because we have no way of knowing that someday our content might actually be worth something.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's basically what most tech companies are trying to optimize these days, the ability to make money off of other people's work. It's why they're so hyped about trying to use AI to replace the very workers it's trained on.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Most of modern civilization wasn't built by the current S&P500 — most of them didn't exist 50 years ago, let alone 100 — it was built by humanity, collectively, over thousands of years.

That fact won't stop any individual or corporation from trying to claim absolute dominion over the entire human population, all derivative works and resources, or the rest of our descendants futures, for all eternity.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

The goal of every thief is to take something of value from someone else without any repercussions for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Can't wait to get insulted by the AI for asking a "stupid" question and be told the answer has already been asked without a link but with a passive aggressive tone hinting my family tree might have been close knit akin to a thumbleweed.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Or being to to google the problem with the only result being the question you just asked.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We will fondly look back on the days of finding highly specific dead forum threads that are a decade or more old about the issue we were having.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

DUPLICATE COMMENT

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah but a lot of people don't really know what SO is for. They think you just go there and get help and call it a day. But the entire point is to produce structured questions, discourse, and answers aimed at future readers. Super specific, no-context, or duplicate problems are not useful. If you are not trying to generate useful content, don't go to SO.

Just look at all the people getting frustrated at being told "you should probably do it a different way." They really don't understand that just because they're asking the question, it's not all about them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying it's not the friendliest way to enthuse beginners to this way of working.

I get it's frustrating, but when you're asking your first question ever, it feels like paying for everyone else. xD

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Now they partner with OpenAI after banning AI answers provided by users? Wow, such hypocrisy https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/421831/policy-generative-ai-e-g-chatgpt-is-banned

[–] [email protected] 82 points 3 months ago

Now they're getting paid, so fuck you!

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago (3 children)

That exactly tracks. You can't feed answers from an AI into an AI. It gets all incesty (technical term). So they have to ban user submitted AI answers.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Were they trying to avoid having AI produced output sold as LLM input along with their human user generated content? I wonder if this was some big picture decision or pure coincidence.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Chatgpt: How do I kill all the children in this thread?

As a AI model I'm not allowed to promote violence against... Also since children are involved this case was reported to your local enforcement agency

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago

A match made in hell

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Jesus fuck, don’t take Stack away. I rely on it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Honestly, next time append "docs" and more than likely be greeted by lots of examples, explanations and considerations. Works unless you're using something microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago

Are you serious? Such a great loss.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago (4 children)

On the plus side, it can't get any worse.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

As an AI language model I'm not able to answer duplicate questions and this was asked before. Closing.

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[–] Tar_alcaran 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] gravitas_deficiency 46 points 3 months ago (1 children)

lol this is going to be fantastically catastrophic. ChatGPT is going to end up indirectly writing so much code. And I am fully aware how often ChatGPT give you absolute nonsense when asked to write some code. It’s got a decently high hit rate for relatively unchallenging stuff, but it is nowhere NEAR 100% accurate.

TL;DR stackoverflow doesn’t understand how many developers naively copypaste shit from stackoverflow I guess? Wcgw

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago

AI will be the downfall of AI

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm more worried about Stack ruining gpt than gpt ruining stack.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Me: How would I write a for-loop that starts from the end of a list?

ChatGPT: Closing this conversation as this question has already been answered.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

The working solution being 5 child comments deep on a wrong solution flagged as correct is my favorite.

[–] uuhhhhmmmm 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

But all user contributions on StackOverflow licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0... right?

https://stackoverflow.com/help/licensing

[–] merc 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Attribution — You must give appropriate credit

So, if Stack Overflow generates text based on any answer (or question) in Stack Overflow's DB, it must credit the person whose text it adapted.

Good luck with that...

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Stack trying to remain relevant

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Oops! All Wrong Answers!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The snake eating its own tail

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Why is the OpenAI logo an anus?

OH. Oh right. Sorry. Withdrawn.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Makes sense, don't MS own SO, GH, OAI, and Minecraft?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget NPM.

And, while we're at it:

  • Bethesda
  • Activision
  • Blizzard
  • Obsidian
  • Mojang
  • Rare
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[–] sugar_in_your_tea 13 points 3 months ago

Cool, I guess I'll go delete all my stuff...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

glad i deleted my acct years ago

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

the reason I go to stack overflow is the answers arent hallucinated by an AI

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