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[–] [email protected] 229 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Just FYI, Tildes is run by one (1) dude with a full time job and a family. From what I read, the guy refers to himself as the God of Tildes or something to that effect which I think tells you everything you need to know about how it's managed.

Don't expect it to ever reach the popularity or capacity of Lemmy or Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I read that this was stated entirely as a joke, and I read that 2 months ago in the middle of people looking for pathetic excuses to not stop using reddit.

I thought Lemmy would have stopped propagating it without a source.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I thought Lemmy would have stopped propagating it without a source.

You must not be familiar with people then.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

Isn't Tildes the site responsible for the creation of Beehaw? As in a bunch of users had a disagreement with the admin and decided they would all leave Tildes and start their own place (with blackjack and hookers), eventually settling on Lemmy for the platform?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Their goal is not to be a Reddit alternative or to replace the fediverse. Maybe in the long run it will have a larger user base, but for now they want to remain on the smaller size. Which is fine, there is room for multiple websites. It’s a good thing everyone isn’t located in one source. Things can be across lemmy, mastodon, Kbin, tildes, squabbles, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it was a good alternative, but it not being federated nor able to create communities makes it a bit lame. I really liked it, but it's hard to find interesting use for it when it doesn't let you have the spaces or topics that you want to cover other than the already defined ones.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah the lack of federation is a deal breaker for me. Nothing stopping it from going the way of reddit.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

If you use a private website for your social media we just loop back to where we are right now in a few years. Even if it seems great now there will eventually be enshittification.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When someone asks me if I'm on facebook, I can say I'm on The Federation, has a nice ring to it

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

It is a shame that this is now a reason on the table to avoid sites like this.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Really hard to care about a niche social network like this if it isn’t federated, honestly. Far as I’m concerned it could go the exact same way as Hacker News or Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What happened to Hacker News? It doesn't appear to have changed, though I haven't used it in years. It was always a bit too techbro for me.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Replacement to Lemmy if Lemmy ever paywall the API

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That's the equivalence of saying if W3C added a pay wall to http. It can't be done.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

I mean, Google's trying their hardest...

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Cool! Don't care! Fuck Tildes. And I'm a longtime RIF user and Tildes alpha user. (And it's still in alpha, years later...) It's a weird ass place over there. Not too keen on their "private club" theme centered around the "God of Tildes" either.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

While I prefer Lemmy more, I'm enjoying my time there.

Can you cite any examples of weird behavior centered around its admin? I don't read Tildes enough to have noticed it, I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I went and looked at tildes as a result of this, and it seems aggressively dead. Like, the fediverse is pretty dead and tildes makes it look positively thriving in comparison. Yeesh.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's been invite-only for a long while, so they can manage the userbase easier. I imagine that, plus the lack of support for visual content makes it challenging for engagement.

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

What are you talking about, Lemmy is great and Matrix is absolutely thriving for things I care about.

Sure, Lemmy doesn't have 300M users or whatever Reddit has, but that doesn't mean it's dead, it just means it's small. Valuable discussion happens here, and it seems to be improving.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Tildes is elitist. They don't want the unwashed masses on their manicured lawn.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I think that's an strong statement and overreaction on your part, but to that point mass adoption isn't always a good thing.

I find that the content on Tildes are generally more respectful, thoughtful and higher quality. Much better signal to noise ratio. Lemmy does have quality stuff but there is also a lot more low quality / low effort content to wade through. Just look at the state of Showerthoughts / AskLemmy if you are looking for examples.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You just described elitism.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

But is it though? By definition moderation and adminstration means a certain set of standard and rules to keep the community / site runs well. Tildes simply has their own set of standards that so far I think is working well.

Lemmy has mods too and there are plenty of powertripping drama. Does that make Lemmy elitist? Or less so simply because it allows shitposts and memes?

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Sadly tildes is invite only it seems.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

From what I can recall, you aren't missing much. The power hungry admins are intense there.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It looks like they have their own "vibe" and rigorously enforce it in their own community. That's fine, it's their service after all. Feels a bit strange to turn away potential new users when people are looking for viable alternatives

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Sadly tildes is invite only it seems.

People parrot this as if getting a Tildes invite is like getting invited to join the Freemasons or something like that—it's not that hard to get an invite.

And for those who are just going to lurk, you don't even need to register to view everything.

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[–] southsamurai 19 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but just asking for one is usually enough. It isn't difficult to get, just enough to totally prevent bots or massive multiple accounts.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've honestly never heard of Tildes til this post. As far as I can tell since there's no API he's just scraping html which is not ideal, but still it's worth checking out. I love that developers are still determined to make 3rd party apps.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder why he went over that over Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Talklittle themself has said that it's actually because they were already working on a tildes app before the reddit API changed. Tildes was different enough from reddit that they felt comfortable investing the time. Then 3rd party apps got booted and everyone started moving over, and at that point it was easier to keep working on the same tildes app than to start anything new.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

They are on the fediverse as well, so hopefully with time they may decide to make something for Lemmy as well

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably because when people were suggesting Reddit alternatives a TON of people showed interest in Tildes. Then, as far as I know, it never took off because it was invite only?

We have all of the larger Android Reddit app developers making Lemmy apps already. I'm pretty happy with Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Was really keen on tildes for a moment when we were going through the exodus stage with Reddit. I wasn't keen on the closed invite system.

I get they want to keep their own community and that's fine, but it's a shame they wanted to limit their growth in a time when people were looking for alternatives

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got my account by reading the FAQ’s and emailing directly.

It seems more of a step to weed out low effort posters which I’m not mad at tbh.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does that website ban people for fucking cursing?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm a long time RIF user myself and as much as it would be great to have a Lemmy version we have so much to choose from it literally doesn't matter at all. You can tweak Connect to basically work similar to RIF if you want.

Please don't hate on the dev or Tildes itself, it serves no purpose at all and we are better than that as a community.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Thank you! RIF was my go to for years and I'm a fan.

[–] icepuncher69 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (31 children)

Why of all the alternatives to reddit did the rif dev had to go with the shittyest one, i heard that the admins over there are even worse than they where back at reddit. I used riff almost since i started to interact with reddit and it was a beautifull app. Why didnt they go for a lemmy app? Why that horrible place of tildes...? I dont know but its probably safe to blame the beans.

Edit: Lots of Tildes lovers over here, arent yah? Look if you like the platform then more power to yah but my criticisms come from the moderation of that platform, its very sketchy and ban happy from what i heard, and imho a platform is limited by their moderators, and the jannies in tildes are the type that make you go "reddit moment" .

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

the shittyest one

Eh, that crown is probably better worn by Squabbles.

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