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[–] [email protected] 64 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Early access like BG3 where you got act 1 a year early can be cool.

"Early access" where you can play the game 48 hrs early if you buy the super deluxe edition is ridiculous

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

“Early access” where you can play the game 48 hrs early if you buy the super deluxe edition is ridiculous

Honestly, that's a form of premium that I'm onboard with. I wouldn't buy it myself...but by the same token, I don't mind waiting 48 hours, so it has a very minimal negative impact on me. A game could just as easily have crashed into a bug and slipped release by much more than 48 hours.

And if you're getting a game 48 hours prior to release, you're at least getting a finished game. The curse of early access schemes is games that never really make it to a finished game. You're paying more, but you're still getting the product, and it's pretty easy to judge what you're getting and whether it's worthwhile to you.

Game publishers normally do have some form of leveraging price discrimination to get people who want a game sooner to pay more...but it's usually in the form of prices dropping over a much longer period of time, older games costing less. I don't mind waiting 48 hours. Frankly, I'd rather wait a couple of weeks anyway for bugs to be patched and reviews to come out. I care more about waiting five years (though there's the whole [email protected] crowd who intentionally wait a period of time after release, maybe a year or more).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

And if you’re getting a game 48 hours prior to release, you’re at least getting a finished game.

True. But, personally, I think it has all the downsides of pre-ordering but at extra cost. The game could be an absolute disaster (Suicide Squad, anyone?) and there's no way for anyone to know that. Not waiting to be able to properly inform yourself about what you're spending money on is so stupid.

I'm honestly reaching the point where I think pre-ordering games should be legislated against. Sure, it's only stupid people being parted from their money, but it's clear some consumers need protecting from themselves and it's only really the corporations that would lose out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

As long as we start rephrasing for what it is. Premium users don't get it 48hrs before release. It's released and anyone who pays can get it.

It's withheld from everyone else until the elites get their go at it.

[–] ryathal 1 points 7 months ago

48hrs of early access is also nice for games like MMOs, getting a chunk of people through starting zones before the masses is good for everyone. Competitive games can get more dedicated players out of the lower leagues a bit faster.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Xenotilt is early access.

Moonring is early access. Hell, it's technically some sort of beta-not-a-release...thing.

I played Inkulinati in early access.

I played Potion Craft in early access.

They were not without their issues and bugs, but they were typically updated and fixed within reasonable amounts of time. (Sometimes too reasonable... Get some you time Dene!) If it was something game-breaking, it would get updated asap.

I guess the lesson here is small indy studios are usually a safe bet when it comes to early access if you do a little due diligence, but never trust the big corpos.

[–] remus989 1 points 7 months ago

That's not what they meant though. In this case people are paying extra to GET the game 2 days early so they get a head start. I agree with your thoughts though.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

110/130 for a game? I'm looking forward to the articles saying gaming is dead because people no longer buy 'premium" games.

Or that people are only interested in free games with lottery and gambling mechanics because nobody is apparently paying 100+ for a game.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

I used to love the AC series, going so far as to get the collectors edition with the figurine. But they made so many editions I ended up not getting any for fear I wasnt getting the complete one.

I hate multiple editions, like one special edition is fine and after some time a complete edition with added content is tolerable.

But day one multi releases get skipped for me.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don't buy games until they drop below $15. Way too much to play to deal with this bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, and too many solid games that I haven't gotten around to even buying yet that are much cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

I can't wait to catch up on all the games coming out now in a few years with my steam deck oled 2.0, considering how much fun I am having playing everything from the 2010s on my Deck right now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Amen brother. Patient gamers unite!

The other benefit of this is you can usually play older games on maxed out settings (PC). I would barely run Crysis on my PC when it came out, but when I finally got to it few years later (and with newer computer) it was easily maxed out and looked amazing (and it still does even today).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Have you played sport gateway to glimmer it's a solid sequel dropped on ps1

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

Ubisoft gonna Ubisoft.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Well I'll just wait for the ultimate edition to go on sale for $50 or whatever.

I guess this is kind of the logical conclusion of the "never buy unless it's more than 50% off" attitude.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I mean, this plan is the best plan. Ubisoft games go on sale almost instantly and the ultimate editions are sub $50 within 3-6 months. I’ll just go back to my Balatro trance and check this out in 2025.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

You'll probably only have to wait 2 weeks. It's Ubisoft after all

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

that's so ubisoft of them

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

They are too busy drowning in sales to hear any sighs

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

I guess the real outlaws are the Triple Aye video game companies

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

As long as those editions are optional, I think it's okay for there to be choices. They make absurd collector's editions because they always sell, always!

On the other hand, the failure rate of AAA games is at an all-time high. So it's a huge risk to buy a 1.0 of anything based on a carefully edited trailer.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Honestly, it's the failure rate and quick fizzle out that's got me waiting with any game.

Bethesda and Starfield did it to me. Still feel bamboozled by buying that day one. I love RPGs, I love space, I love crafting, but it just fell so damn flat. And then all the rhetoric and displeasure of Dragon's Dogma 2 and mtx. It's a no for me.

But then again, I have a hard time splitting from my money since I don't have a lot of disposable income, so I prefer to make the wisest ROI choice I can.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

God I'm glad I don't like star wars anymore. It'd suck if ubisoft put out a game I actually wanted to play, and ruin the easiest boycott ever for me (by making it harder).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I still fucking love Star Wars. I'm super excited for this game.

I will never pay $110 for a god damn video game. And neither should any Star Wars fan.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

"outlaws" also being a verb makes this title difficult to understand

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Does AAA studio stand for Always Asking for Assets? and a AAAA studio is Assholes Always Asking for Assets.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Ubisoft uses Denuvo, and Denuvo games don't get cracked any more. Only way around it is if they put the game on Switch as well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I doubt this game will run on a Switch

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

It won't. I just mentioned it since it's the only way to pirate some games currently.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Denuvo is a subscription that they usually stop paying after a couple months.

[–] ryathal 1 points 7 months ago

Many big studios seem to have better deals and keep Denuvo indefinitely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Still can't pirate Assassin' Creed Mirage, which came out in October.