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The Jamie Lloyd Company has hit back after its production of Shakespeare’s “Romeo & Juliet” has been the subject of what they call a “barrage of deplorable racial abuse” aimed at an unnamed cast member.

The play, directed by Jamie Lloyd (“Sunset Boulevard”), stars “Spider-Man: No Way Home” star Tom Holland as Romeo and Francesca Amewaduh-Rivers (“Sex Education”) as Juliet. 

On Friday, the Jamie Lloyd Company issued a statement, saying: “Following the announcement of our ‘Romeo & Juliet’ cast, there has been a barrage of deplorable racial abuse online directed towards a member of our company. This must stop.”

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[-] [email protected] 130 points 3 months ago

Following the announcement of our ‘Romeo & Juliet’ cast, there has been a barrage of deplorable racial abuse online directed towards a member of our company. This must stop.”

I'm guessing the racist jerks complaining about the casting would be really upset if they knew that Juliet was played by a dude named Robert Goffe in the very first performance of the play in 1597. source These bigots are so busy complaining about a replacement in race for the actor playing Juliet that they're not even consistent asking for Juliet to be played the original gender of the actor in the first performance. Where is your consistency, bigots?

[-] [email protected] 65 points 3 months ago

Also observe how those "replacement in race" people are completely silent on the 3 body problem show that made pretty much all of the Chinese characters from the book into westerners

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago

Thanks for the historical context - I knew most of it personally but not the name of the actor who played Juliet first.

It's nice to know that kind of information has survived so far. History is weird like that.

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[-] [email protected] 83 points 3 months ago

Should have cast a male to play Juliet like the original. Wonder what the response would have been then?

[-] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago

Honestly watching Shakespeare in the cross dressing way really made me like it. They teach you Shakespeare in school by reading it, that's stupid. That's like studying the godfather and only reading the script and never watching the film. I hated it. Then one day I saw the actual play, done in drag and it really made the humor pop and made me finally understand what the fuck they were talking about in that script

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

A woman's role in theatre played by an actual woman!? What a load of woke agenda BS!

/S

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

"Sounds gay. I'm in!"

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[-] [email protected] 70 points 3 months ago

So are they saying that Romeo and Juliet can’t be together? Ironic.

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[-] [email protected] 61 points 3 months ago

Unless a characters race or gender or ethnicity or (dis)ability is a key component of either their arc or the story as whole (e.g. the plot depends on it), who the fuck cares who's playing who? I saw the same thing happen when the Dune movie had the Liet-Kynes character portrayed by a black woman. It makes absolutely zero difference to the story what gender or race Liet-Kynes was and she was really good anyway.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

Even if race is an important component, we don't have to repeat everything exactly. Let an artist twist it and see what happens.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

I only dislike it when historical shows or movies race swap, cause it kinda ignores the racism of that community at that point in time. Like a black woman playing queen Elizabeth wouldn't make sense. Or Cleopatra for that matter

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[-] [email protected] 56 points 3 months ago

Romeo and Juliet is the stupidest target for this when all of Shakespeare has been interpreted in wildly diverging ways, skin color would be the smallest of which (and where was it stated that Juliet was white?)

[-] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago

The story says she's from a noble family in North Italy. Most likely she has olive skin tone.

[-] lurch 26 points 3 months ago

i hope she's extra virgin tho

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

It's been a lot of years since high school English, but Juliet Capulet was of the Italian family Capulet in the 1590s.

There is some detail in the references of the Capulet family to real world factions of the time. But both those arguing for and against this casting don't care about any of that.

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[-] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago

Honestly, we do see a lot of this casting in the 21st century. A familiar character becomes black, whether it's Annie or The Little Mermaid, and it leaves me ambivalent. However, in the case of Romeo and Juliet, it actually makes sense to have a racial component injected into the story. They are from warring families, correct? Race could be another point of conflict for them.

(Besides, Shakespeare has been famously open to interpretation. Is Shylock a villain, comic relief, or a tragic victim of prejudice in his own time? That's up to the director of the play, or the film.)

[-] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago

You are thinking way too hard about this. The character isn't becoming black. The characters the same, she's just played by a black actress. That doesn't change the character. That's why we call it acting. She's just playing a role. Tom Holland isn't Italian, but I noticed you didn't bring up him changing the character.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Do you feel equally uneasy when you watch old movies in which white actors portray non-white characters?

Or what about fiction, like "The Hunger Games," in which Katniss is described as "olive-skninned" in the book, but was played by Jennifer Lawrence?

Have you ever expressed your discomfort at the portrayals of Jesus as a white dude with blue eyes all over the place?

I'm not addressing you personally. But those who are vocal about stuff like this are sheer hypocrites.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Personally,

Do you feel equally uneasy when you watch old movies in which white actors portray non-white characters?

Holy shit, yes. I don't always notice it, but when I do, it absolutely makes me uncomfortable.

Or what about fiction, like "The Hunger Games," in which Katniss is described as "olive-skninned" in the book, but was played by Jennifer Lawrence?

I've always understood "olive-skinned" to refer to people from the European Mediterranean area, which, from an American perspective, are often considered white. As such, it doesn't really bother me that much. However, if the author meant for her to be middle-eastern or northern African, then yeah, that does kinda make me a bit uncomfortable.

Have you ever expressed your discomfort at the portrayals of Jesus as a white dude with blue eyes all over the place?

I grew up with blue-eyed Jesus so it doesn't bother me because I'm used to it. If I was used to seeing black or middle-eastern Jesus, then yeah, I'd be uncomfortable with it. As it is, I'm more amused by the fact that Christians can't get it right than I am uncomfortable with it.

Tbh when it comes to this specific example, I don't really care. I generally think it's better to cast characters as they were originally intended (black characters should be black people, queer characters should be queer people, etc), though I also understand that sometimes exceptions have to be made. I'm mainly replying because I wanted to chime in and say, "hey, not everyone who thinks characters should be cast in accordance with their original race, sex, gender, etc, is a bigot."

Or at least I don't think of myself as one. Maybe I still have things to work on though.

Edit: tbh I think a lot of these kinds of casting choices are rage-bait. They're not doing it because they want to give minorities more opportunities to perform, they're doing it because it generates free advertising. Because of that, I honestly wonder if it's doing more harm than good.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

I generally think it’s better to cast characters as they were originally intende

The little mermaid wasn't written as a particular race from what I know.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

She's HALF FISH. The human part could be whatever colour you want.

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[-] catsarebadpeople 36 points 3 months ago

Nice job Vanity Fair. There are some racists who are whining about interracial Romeo and Juliet. Fuck them for sure. But not only is this rag trying to turn it into a scandal that it's not, they can't even get Francesca's acting credit right. Sex Education and Bad Education are incredibly different shows. There are black female actors in Sex Education but Vanity Fair sure can't tell the difference between them and her.

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago

Not really a big deal but it's funny that this variety article and all the other people reporting on this are using the same line of Francesca being from sex education when she's not lol. She's from bad education. It seems like so many websites are just copying from the same source and so they all have the same mistake

[-] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago

Romeo+Juliet is the perfect story for a mixed-race couple, given that the story is about the original is about how their relationship isn't accepted by their families. Also for any other kind of relationship dipshit assclowns hate.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"Unnamed cast member"? Is it that they think we're really stupid, or that it's actually not people complaining about the black Juliet, and they want to make it look like it is?

How bizarre...

[-] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago

Spoiler alert, Tom Holland is actually playing Juliet.

[-] sbv 18 points 3 months ago

tbf he's pretty cute

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

"towards a member of our company"

This is the actual quote, not from Variety.

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