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We literally have this meme about how we wish our left-wing party was replaced by Dannish left-wing party.

It goes like this:

"Duńska lewica jest antyimigrancka i dzięki temu wygrała 3 wybory z rzędu cały czas ciesząc się ogromną popularnością i poparciem"


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The original was posted on /r/denmark by /u/KochamPamietnik2004 at 2024-03-24 12:20:55+00:00.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (6 children)

SendStoreMeloner at 2024-03-24 12:23:04+00:00 ID: kwbw252


"Duńska lewica jest antyimigrancka i dzięki temu wygrała 3 wybory z rzędu cały czas ciesząc się ogromną popularnością i poparciem"

Den danske venstrefløj er immigrationsfjendtlig og takket være dette vandt den tre valg i træk, mens den stadig nyder enorm popularitet og opbakning.

Yes there is a pretty hard line across the isle in Denmark. Otherwise you lose elections.

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abc24611 at 2024-03-24 12:34:02+00:00 ID: kwbxbah


hard line across the isle

didnt the two parties who has been battling each other for 100 years just form a government together?

I've never seen a softer line across the isle than right now..

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Aenyn at 2024-03-24 13:03:49+00:00 ID: kwc0upy


I think the hard line referred to the stance of all the parties regarding immigration policies.

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viking_nomad at 2024-03-24 12:38:34+00:00 ID: kwbxugy


They did and the social democrats is definitely winning the combination. Venstre split in 3 and is much smaller than it used to be

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Fysiksven at 2024-03-24 12:57:59+00:00 ID: kwc053u


this is only true if you view succes as going up in the polls. Venstre got a LOT more of their policy through than they would have got as an opposition to a Social demokratiet government suported by the left. People seem to forgot that the right wing lost the election and yet here we are getting tax cutoffs payed for by worsening the wellfare, not in general left wing policy if you ask me.

The Venstre split happened before the election so that is not due to them going into the government but yes the polls went downhill a lot since the election.

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awl21 at 2024-03-24 13:19:26+00:00 ID: kwc2tf0


Venstre split before the election, though.

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abc24611 at 2024-03-24 12:41:03+00:00 ID: kwby4td


Very true, but 2/3 of "old venstre" is still in the government with their old arch enemy, which just seems so odd and weird.

I'm starting to think Ellemann the younger wasn't the greatest for that party but who knows...

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Poet_Silly at 2024-03-24 13:02:35+00:00 ID: kwc0pas


I think they meant that there is a hard line when it comes to immigration across the isle, meaning both left and right.

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Thotaz at 2024-03-24 13:25:44+00:00 ID: kwc3myl


It's "aisle" like a passageway/hallway in a store. "Isle" refers to a small island.

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MadsenFraMadsenOgCo at 2024-03-24 12:47:36+00:00 ID: kwbywj0


Hvilke tre valg i træk?

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SendStoreMeloner at 2024-03-24 12:56:13+00:00 ID: kwbzxid


Selv SF har valgt en mere stram indvandrerpolitik. Det samme med De Radikale.

Selv Enhedslisten har talt imod islam og anerkendt at der er integrationsproblemer osv.,

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MadsenFraMadsenOgCo at 2024-03-24 12:57:49+00:00 ID: kwc04e2


Ja, men hvornår har den danske venstrefløj vundet tre valg i træk? Skal man ikke tilbage til Kampmann og Krags tid?

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SendStoreMeloner at 2024-03-24 12:59:45+00:00 ID: kwc0ctz


Jeg tror ikke at du skal tage den del så bogstavligt. Der menes nok bare Helle Thorning og bagefter Mette Frederiksen.

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KochamPamietnik2004 (OP) at 2024-03-24 12:33:29+00:00 ID: kwbx919


Yes, many Polish people are sad that the Polish left might soon find themselves out of the parliament and look at Denmark(the only actual democratic socialdemocratic country on Earth with 3 left-wing victories in a row) for inspiration on how to win

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Lord-Filip at 2024-03-24 12:39:10+00:00 ID: kwbxwxh


The social Democrats haven't been left wing for a long time

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Listeria08 at 2024-03-24 12:41:23+00:00 ID: kwby694


I would agree, and that is why they dont get my vote:)

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0-Snap at 2024-03-24 13:27:49+00:00 ID: kwc3wog


Even if you include the current government, which is much more centrist than leftist, the left has not won three times in a row. Mette Frederiksen, the current social democratic prime minister, won in 2022 and before that in 2019, but the election before that, in 2015, was won by the right wing.

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imSpejderMan at 2024-03-24 12:36:32+00:00 ID: kwbxltr


Socialdemoktratiet isn’t really left wing anymore. It’s more somewhere around the center maybe leaning a big left, but very much so right in other instances. I do doubt that they’ll win the next election considering the last few years, but people tend to forget quite quickly so maybe I’m wrong.

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SendStoreMeloner at 2024-03-24 12:56:49+00:00 ID: kwc000t


Socialdemoktratiet isn’t really left wing anymore.

It's center left and always have been.

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Tychus_Balrog at 2024-03-24 13:04:26+00:00 ID: kwc0xg3


Before the 90s it was very much a leftist party

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SendStoreMeloner at 2024-03-24 13:06:15+00:00 ID: kwc15gt


SF was always more left and so was the communist and Venstre Socialisterne.

That still places Socialdemokratiet on center left.

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Tychus_Balrog at 2024-03-24 13:09:28+00:00 ID: kwc1jz5


Yes, they were far left. But Socialdemokratiet was still left. And if we go back to the beginning of the party they had their far shair of far leftists as well. This was before SF was even a thing.

They were talking about genuine socialism in those days.

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Nervous-Plate-4409 at 2024-03-24 12:46:43+00:00 ID: kwbyss9


If they win next election, I will no longer identify as a dane. And I won’t trust any other dane. And I will move to another country.

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MT_Cubes at 2024-03-24 13:00:18+00:00 ID: kwc0f5n


They will win again. Im not a fan, but the middle almost always wins, and they taken many of the right wing politics in. They are the biggest party. They will stay in power, and I think it will take a while to push them out with the other parties being so small/weak

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DumtDoven at 2024-03-24 12:50:20+00:00 ID: kwbz893


I hate Socialdemokratiet. I hate Venstre and Moderaterne even more.

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Nervous-Plate-4409 at 2024-03-24 13:41:19+00:00 ID: kwc5p69


Enig.

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NoobInArms at 2024-03-24 13:02:11+00:00 ID: kwc0nfe


Hvorfra kommer sådan en dramatisk udtalelse?

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icleanredditnice at 2024-03-24 16:27:46+00:00 ID: kwcviyg


how can you just decide they arent "really left wing anymore?" like because you dont like their politics?

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SignificanceNo3580 at 2024-03-24 13:10:06+00:00 ID: kwc1mxb


Aw that’s so amazing to hear. You can have them. Really. Please take them off our hands. Be aware that you will have to spend billions on banning mink farmers, more than double the military conscription time, for women too, and have a prime minister that forms her opinion based on what will look better on her resume for some international top post. Any international top post.

The social democrats did have a tough stance on immigration a while ago. But they didn’t win 3 elections in a row and the current government is actually formed in alliance with a party (moderaterne) that was formed by the previous right wing prime minister in order to keep the anti-immigration parties from being in power.

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JJ8OOM at 2024-03-24 13:22:03+00:00 ID: kwc35vi


Social-demokratiet is neither left-wing or friendly to foreigners. That is a thing of the past, today they have crossed the middle-line and is more in line with what Venstre was earlier (and Venstre is trying to figure out who they are now). The only real left-wing parties left is Socialistisk Folke-parti and Enheds-listen.

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Celthric317 at 2024-03-24 12:51:04+00:00 ID: kwbzbej


Well at least they are popular somewhere... /s

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HunterUnicornDragon at 2024-03-24 13:02:55+00:00 ID: kwc0qoi


Want to exchange parties? We'll even throw in some mink fur-coats and some mackerel salad just to get rid of the whole corrupted lot. Just... be careful not to let them near any 15 year old girls.

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Deiskee at 2024-03-24 13:07:43+00:00 ID: kwc1c3o


That narrative is completely correct. The red-block (what we call the majority of the left wing) changed their stance on immigration and had a great election that year because of it.

They have since changed, and moved closer to the middle. But at the time it worked and people were happy with it - and honestly, looking at Sweden we're still happy with it. Only a few parties want to revert it or bring back looser immigration.

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RealFakeLlama at 2024-03-24 12:50:54+00:00 ID: kwbzaoy


Why would want your left wing party replaced by the most anti worker party from here?

What are u talking about, llama? Its the only party that stops workers from striking. Multipel times. Even our right wing is smart enough to not suggest such things when in goverment.

I mean, i dont like the neo liberals ideal of a totaly free market where EVERYTHING is privatesed, but at least they dont intefeer with stikes - they see that as a free choise between workers and their employers (and not the goverment because there will be no goverment emplyees in their utopia)

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Alternative_Pear_538 at 2024-03-24 12:37:33+00:00 ID: kwbxq48


The social democrats are not a left wing party anymore. They have gone fully across the middle and are almost exclusively promoting right wing policies now.

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BitchPleaseImAT-Rex at 2024-03-24 13:44:11+00:00 ID: kwc637d


What a load of bullshit, christ on skates

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Ellebellemig at 2024-03-24 12:58:34+00:00 ID: kwc07of


Poland is a very different country than Denmark. Peoples views on political parties can hardly be compared.

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ScarecrowJohnny at 2024-03-24 12:31:25+00:00 ID: kwbx0jk


And here I thought it was because of all their aid to Ukraine, but no. It's just plain old anti-immigration.

You should know that Socialdemokratiet is a center party though, not really left leaning.

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mikk0384 at 2024-03-24 12:35:15+00:00 ID: kwbxgej


Compared to the rest of the world, even our right wing parties are leaning left.

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DumtDoven at 2024-03-24 12:51:13+00:00 ID: kwbzc12


Compared to our own history, even our left wing parties are leaning right.

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IshayuG at 2024-03-24 13:29:14+00:00 ID: kwc43ac


Only if you look at the 60's and 70's, which was Socialdemokratiet's old policy in full flower, and it nearly bankrupted the country.

I'm very glad they moderated themselves a bit. Denmark still has the 2nd highest tax revenue as a percentage of GDP in the world, exceeded only by France. To call Denmark right-leaning is absolutely insane.

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quantum-fitness at 2024-03-24 14:25:39+00:00 ID: kwcc1bb


I hate this meme. Its not true. We have a high explicit tax in denmark, yes. But we are also a low rules society which is not really a left-wing thing.

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bestrafino at 2024-03-24 12:55:56+00:00 ID: kwbzw9m


Are polish people aware that the biggest danish "right-wing" party is called "Left"? and formed government with the boggest "left-wing" party?

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sp668 at 2024-03-24 13:28:52+00:00 ID: kwc41jm


I think we're mostly surprised that anyone outside Denmark is aware of any of our politics really.

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NikoZec at 2024-03-24 14:01:36+00:00 ID: kwc8ile


Socialdemokratiet is not at all left-wing anymore. It was left when it started before it turned center-left and by now it's just a center party (if not center-right).

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